Excellent rhetoric there. Kid isn't given candy, throws a tantrum.
Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
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Re: Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
#32What an absolute embarrassment to be American at this time. We have the most vain & corrupt president that only cares for his personal gain. It's unfortunate he's in control of the largest military in history. I don't know how horrible it must be for the people of Greenland right now, but as an American I would like to apologize to Europe and other nations right now and to let you know that while probably a large maj…
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Re: Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
#33What an absolute embarrassment to be American at this time. We have the most vain & corrupt president that only cares for his personal gain. It's unfortunate he's in control of the largest military in history. I don't know how horrible it must be for the people of Greenland right now, but as an American I would like to apologize to Europe and other nations right now and to let you know that while probably a large maj…
Have you called your members of congress yet?
Re: Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having a situation where a president demands the peace prize otherwise he causes a war isn’t a good look for Nobel, and shows that we’ve now moved so far from the original intention of the prize that the peace component really should be scrapped.
Right! Either scrap it, or award it only to (A) those recently deceased who have devoted their lives to making peace, or (B) defunct organizations who have completed their mission and had operated in the interests of peace. Giving a "peace" award to living people/organizations -- who can and do go on to sully the award with most unpeaceful deeds -- is a proven failure.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having a situation where a president demands the peace prize otherwise he causes a war isn’t a good look for Nobel, and shows that we’ve now moved so far from the original intention of the prize that the peace component really should be scrapped.
Right! Either scrap it, or award it only to (A) those recently deceased who have devoted their lives to making peace, or (B) defunct organizations who have completed their mission and had operated in the interests of peace. Giving a "peace" award to living people/organizations -- who can and do go on to sully the award with most unpeaceful deeds -- is a proven failure.
> Right! Either scrap it, or award it only to (A) those recently deceased who have devoted their lives to making peace, or (B) defunct organizations who have completed their mission and had operated in the interests of peace.
The legal trust for all the Nobel Prizes state (AIUI) that they can only be awarded to living persons.
The only option would be to not award it (like happened in 1948).
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think Obama winning the prize just for winning the election while being black was a very poor precedent to set.
The Obama prize was a problem that haunts the committee. I agree But you are simplifying greatly. He got it because he reached out to Arabic leader to lower the tone set by George "crusader" Bush. "The Norwegian Nobel Committee announced the award on October 9, 2009, citing Obama's promotion of nuclear nonproliferation[2] and a "new climate" in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out to…
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Re: Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
#37Another discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46679194
Currently 11 comments. This one's bigger, but not hugely so.
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#38At this point they should really do away with the peace prize, or dramatically change how it's granted. As things stand, it's frequently a complete debacle. (Of course in 2025, but see also, e.g., Abiy Ahmed.) Or an embarrassment. (Too many examples to list.) They ought to either cancel the thing outright, or invert the usual Nobel Prize rule and only award the peace prize posthumously. That would solve every problem…
A local PTA has a "parent of the month" award. One month, a vain, vindictive, mentally unstable, and heavily armed parent who tirelessly lobbied for the award and lost begins physically threatening and menacing their neighbors, declaring that if they won't be recognized as the best parent, then by god they'll just take what they're owed until they feel they've gotten what is "psychologically needed for success." In t…
What's the point of the Parent of the Month award?
Re: Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
#39Another day, another step closer to O.N.A.N. - Organisation of North American Nations - as predicted by David Foster Wallace in Infinite Jest. DFW, Neal Stephenson, and Idiocracy seemed funny 25 years ago. Not so much now that they seem to have predicted where we have arrived.
> DFW, Neal Stephenson, and Idiocracy seemed funny 25 years ago. Not so much now that they seem to have predicted where we have arrived. Idiocracy did not predict things accurately: in that movie the President acknowledges that he does not have all the answers and asks questions (and listens) to people he recognizes as knowing more from him. That is not the situation currently.
I have to go back to the source and confirm your analysis. The sheer mental incapacity of the individual cabinet members in the movie most closely matches this current administration than any other cabinet in history as I recall.
Edit: maybe it's predicting the presidency a couple of terms down the line, when a well-meaning Theo Von becomes president. But the Theo Von of today is too smart already, it would have to be the Theo Vom of a decade ago.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right! Either scrap it, or award it only to (A) those recently deceased who have devoted their lives to making peace, or (B) defunct organizations who have completed their mission and had operated in the interests of peace. Giving a "peace" award to living people/organizations -- who can and do go on to sully the award with most unpeaceful deeds -- is a proven failure.
> Right! Either scrap it, or award it only to (A) those recently deceased who have devoted their lives to making peace, or (B) defunct organizations who have completed their mission and had operated in the interests of peace. The legal trust for all the Nobel Prizes state (AIUI) that they can only be awarded to living persons. The only option would be to not award it (like happened in 1948).
> The legal trust for all the Nobel Prizes state (AIUI) that they can only be awarded to living persons.
Can the Nobel Foundation change their rules? Or is static, forever set in stone? In a complex world, you need to be able to adapt.