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Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

#31

To think Ted Cruz was partially on the money when he said in 2016 that "Donald might wake up one morning and nuke Denmark". What has happened to the US...

Even being the slimeballs they are, they all each knew how bad Trump was for their party and for our country. Yet one by one they kissed the ring and now we're expected to lick the boot.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

#32

A badge of honor. Although it's good to be cautious about retaliatory measures, it is perhaps time to think about imposing a digital services tax. That being said, it's quite weird that these tariffs are imposed only on some EU countries (plus UK). How could that possibly work? EU companies can just export goods via other EU countries.

Sure if they want to chase away their tax revenue.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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post #8

We will soon discover if the EU actually as a spine or is just a bendover for the US...(My money is on the latter, and I'm from EU)

Europe cant afford to have enemies on both sides. It will align with the US reluctantly because even a bat shit crazy US is better than Russia. China plays it too close to the chest to be a friend.

I think Europe can handle Russia by itself quite well. The Baltics are vulnerable, but Poland will definitely kick Russia's butt in a military engagement. Poles will defend EU's eastern flank.

I expect Europe to distance itself from US. Let's see.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

#36
With this the EU-US tariff deal from earlier goes down in flames. It apparently wasn’t worth the paper it was written on.

Not surprising given how Trump and the fascist MAGA crowd acts.

The UK are in a precarious spot though due to not being inside the EU single market and are forced to find their own way out with a much weaker hand.

Brexit forever and ever coming back to haunt the UK.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

#37

I wish Europe would just push back. More than what they are currently. There is so much potential there, but somehow the EU all look at the US as some form of idealogical father figure. Excuse the hyperbolic-talk.

I don't think it is true. It's like saying "I wish those kids didn't let the bigger one bully them". The reason the bully is bullying is because he is in a position to do it.

The EU is being careful because the US are more powerful.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

#38
post #30

I liked this bit by Doctorow recently https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/01/39c3/ If you're getting tariffs anyway, why not just take the yoke of American business protection laws off your shoulders? Let French engineers sell jailbreaking hardware for iphones, or Romanian developers sell unlock keys for John Deere tractors.

> why not just take the yoke of American business protection laws off your shoulders...

Because that means we in the US may as well quasi-nationalize major European investments in the US like VW, Siemens, Saint-Gobains, OnSemi, NXP, Arm, and Nexperia and target European luxury cultural exports like Cognac (LVHM), Wine (LVMH), designer clothes (LVMH), designer purses (LVMH), and others like China did.

As a result, oligarchs like (eg.) Arnault (LVMH) would metaphorically slap Macron like they did on multiple occasions [0][1], and threaten to switch to supporting the RN. If they made Macron in 2017 [2], they can unmake him in 2026 [3].

It's the same story across Europe [4][5]. And any domestic capacity that could have remained within the EU is going to start leaving on January 27th [6].

Edit: can't reply

> how you get from IP law abrogation to 'quasi- nationalization'

IP Law protection is sacrosanct in any US trade deal, as we are a services exporter. If faced by actions like those mentioned above, we wouldn't be above retaliating.

This is why American tech companies successfully lobbied both the Biden and Trump administration to tamp down on any attempt on a Digital Services Tax by any country, such as with Canada [7] and the EU [8].

[0] - https://www.reuters.com/world/frances-richest-man-lvmhs-arna...

[1] - https://www.lemonde.fr/en/politics/article/2023/08/07/how-be...

[2] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-05/lvmh-s-ar...

[3] - https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/culture-et-idees/dossier/la...

[4] - https://www.ft.com/content/9b3d057c-16cc-4ab9-93bb-ed82c9ca5...

[5] - https://www.ft.com/content/cc06031c-f4a9-45db-ba3a-a3a23404b...

[6] - https://www.euractiv.com/news/exclusive-eu-india-trade-deal-...

[7] - https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2025/06/can...

[8] - https://www.finance.senate.gov/chairmans-news/-wyden-and-cra...

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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post #8

We will soon discover if the EU actually as a spine or is just a bendover for the US...(My money is on the latter, and I'm from EU)

Europe cant afford to have enemies on both sides. It will align with the US reluctantly because even a bat shit crazy US is better than Russia. China plays it too close to the chest to be a friend.

I don’t buy this at all. Russia is a relatively small economy with a tiny fraction of the EU population. The US is not going to launch a shooting war with Europe. Europe is not going to back down here. This Greenland thing is deeply unpopular in the US. It’s only a conflict because of one senile old man who will be dead soon.
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