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Re: Whistleblower drops 'largest ever' ICE leak to unmask agents

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Post by 0xy »

goatlover wrote: post #27
0xy wrote: post #21

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No it's not. See the most recent NY Times article where they analyze the shooting from every available angle, and it's clear Agent Ross was not in danger, and was not hit by Good's vehicle. His phone he was recording with hit the front of the car as he was preparing to fire his weapon.

They explicitly did not consider the first-person video if you review that article.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/experts-analyze-new-v...

CBS found the opposite, that she hit him.

Re: Whistleblower drops 'largest ever' ICE leak to unmask agents

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Post by goatlover »

0xy wrote: post #31
goatlover wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it's not. See the most recent NY Times article where they analyze the shooting from every available angle, and it's clear Agent Ross was not in danger, and was not hit by Good's vehicle. His phone he was recording with hit the front of the car as he was preparing to fire his weapon.

They explicitly did not consider the first-person video if you review that article. https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/experts-analyze-new-v... CBS found the opposite, that she hit him.

CBS has been compromised by an owner who is a Trump loyalist. The NY Times article did include agent Ross's cellphone video in their analysis.

Re: Whistleblower drops 'largest ever' ICE leak to unmask agents

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Post by DaSHacka »

asacrowflies wrote: post #12
DaSHacka wrote: post #9

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I can't wait until the comply logic turns around on you. I'm actually drooling for what the next administration will be able to do. We need a new mcarthy.

I've already seen it, especially surrounding J6 prosecutions and COVID restrictions/requirements. It's rather you who's throwing the hissy fit when the shoe is on the other foot now.

Re: Whistleblower drops 'largest ever' ICE leak to unmask agents

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Post by DaSHacka »

gspr wrote: post #18
DaSHacka wrote: post #9

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You seem to want a world in which gangs of untrained, unvetted thugs wearing facemasks and no identification can exit unmarked vehicles with guns drawn and demand that you do certain things or answer their questions on pain of being shot in the face. All while opaquely protected by the state. I hope you get that world. I hope no innocent person has to live it with you. You're exactly the reason free societies can suc…

> You seem to want a world in which gangs of untrained, unvetted thugs wearing facemasks and no identification can exit unmarked vehicles with guns drawn and demand that you do certain things or answer their questions on pain of being shot in the face. All while opaquely protected by the state.

And if they weren't wearing masks, you, and people like you, would be the first ones running to publicize their names and ruin or outright end their lives.

> I hope you get that world. I hope no innocent person has to live it with you.

Lol, I already experience it with TSA every time I want to fly, and somehow we all decided that was okay. This is no worse than that.

> You're exactly the reason free societies can successfully go down the path to dystopian authoritarianism.

Right, we all know free societies are defined by being completely lawless with no law enforcement whatsoever. Ask all those free societies in the Middle East what they think about living in the midst of a power vacuum! I'm sure they love it.

> I hate you.

uhh, cry about it, I guess? I don't particularly like people like you either, but I can't say I feel strongly enough to even consider it hate. I guess it's closest to some combination of 'pity' and 'annoyance'.

Also, you should take a moment to familiarize yourself with HN's rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Whistleblower drops 'largest ever' ICE leak to unmask agents

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Post by asacrowflies »

DaSHacka wrote: post #33
asacrowflies wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't wait until the comply logic turns around on you. I'm actually drooling for what the next administration will be able to do. We need a new mcarthy.

I've already seen it, especially surrounding J6 prosecutions and COVID restrictions/requirements. It's rather you who's throwing the hissy fit when the shoe is on the other foot now.

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Re: Whistleblower drops 'largest ever' ICE leak to unmask agents

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Post by DaSHacka »

asacrowflies wrote: post #35
DaSHacka wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've already seen it, especially surrounding J6 prosecutions and COVID restrictions/requirements. It's rather you who's throwing the hissy fit when the shoe is on the other foot now.

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Re: Whistleblower drops 'largest ever' ICE leak to unmask agents

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Post by asacrowflies »

DaSHacka wrote: post #36
asacrowflies wrote: post #35

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Prosecution under the law is not murder. But to expect the current murderous administration to continue it's action without violent reprisal is childishly naive.

Specifically us code title 18 section 2381-2385

And UCMJ articles 94. 134. 106a and dozens more .

Re: Whistleblower drops 'largest ever' ICE leak to unmask agents

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Post by gspr »

DaSHacka wrote: post #34
gspr wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to want a world in which gangs of untrained, unvetted thugs wearing facemasks and no identification can exit unmarked vehicles with guns drawn and demand that you do certain things or answer their questions on pain of being shot in the face. All while opaquely protected by the state. I hope you get that world. I hope no innocent person has to live it with you. You're exactly the reason free societies can suc…

> You seem to want a world in which gangs of untrained, unvetted thugs wearing facemasks and no identification can exit unmarked vehicles with guns drawn and demand that you do certain things or answer their questions on pain of being shot in the face. All while opaquely protected by the state. And if they weren't wearing masks, you, and people like you, would be the first ones running to publicize their names and ru…

> And if they weren't wearing masks, you, and people like you, would be the first ones running to publicize their names and ruin or outright end their lives.

So you want the police to be secret. A sort of… secret police? Got it!

> Lol, I already experience it with TSA every time I want to fly, and somehow we all decided that was okay. This is no worse than that.

How often does the TSA arrest, rendition, or kill, people? And nomatter whether we decide that flying is a right or a privilege, I'm sure we can agree that it's a very small part of life compared to all the other parts, right? The parts that Trump's secret police are claiming jurisdiction over. Ok, good. So it's literally A LOT WORSE THAN THAT! Jesus.

> Right, we all know free societies are defined by being completely lawless with no law enforcement whatsoever. Ask all those free societies in the Middle East what they think about living in the midst of a power vacuum! I'm sure they love it.

Huh? You can't seriously thing that anyone will buy that this follows. Please at least _try_ when you're misrepresenting my views.

> uhh, cry about it, I guess?

Ah yes, the trumpian response. Fantastic.

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