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ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

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Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

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If it can talk people into suicide [0] then surely it can talk them into buying stuff. https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/06/us/openai-chatgpt-suicide-law...

> talk people into suicide In all of these stories I've never seen it talk anybody into suicide. It failed to talk people out of it, and was generally sycophantic, but that's something completely different.

‘I've never seen it’

Well that settles it.

Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

#33
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> talk people into suicide In all of these stories I've never seen it talk anybody into suicide. It failed to talk people out of it, and was generally sycophantic, but that's something completely different.

‘I've never seen it’ Well that settles it.

> Major news outlets have articles of multiple instances that LLMs can talk people into suicide. Most of them making it to the front page of this very forum.

> “i’ve never seen it”

> some high profile developer posts an article that LLMs can build a browser from scratch without any evidence

> “wow!”

Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

#34

Deepseek local and Claude are good enough for me. Gemini is also very good, but I'm aware of Google's Ad Machine there.. It's been interesting to see what was a quality leading product fail to compete and lose market share.

I expect that once one player adds ads, all the others will follow when they find out that the coast is clear and users are not leaving in droves.

Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> talk people into suicide In all of these stories I've never seen it talk anybody into suicide. It failed to talk people out of it, and was generally sycophantic, but that's something completely different.

‘I've never seen it’ Well that settles it.

Show me one where it actively talked someone into suicide then, instead of generalized "whatever you do, you're doing great" slop.

Even in the article linked above it never talked him into it, it just in some responses didn't talk him out of it.

But essentially the entire "energy" towards that comes from the person, not the LLM.

Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

#37
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If there have to be ads, I need them to be fenced off, not intertwined into whatever response it provides. Once the enshittifcation gets to that point (and it will) it’s over.

Sadly, ads on Google used to be fenced off too. Then they slowly evolve to look more and more like part of the search result. I expect the same to happen here.

MBAs are trained to make number go up

Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

#38
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

‘I've never seen it’ Well that settles it.

Show me one where it actively talked someone into suicide then, instead of generalized "whatever you do, you're doing great" slop. Even in the article linked above it never talked him into it, it just in some responses didn't talk him out of it. But essentially the entire "energy" towards that comes from the person, not the LLM.

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Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

#39
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Truth is I even shocked myself by dropping my ChatGPT subscription Between Claude and Gemini it just wasnt needed. Will openai be the MySpace of this era?

Not too many people have all three subscriptions. Most people have no subscriptions and will continue to use free ad tools with ads. Claude will be the first company to fall as developers find something slightly better.

Claude will live or die on the quality of its product because it lacks the protective most that ChatGPT and Gemini have - name recognition and existing user base.

Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

#40
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

‘I've never seen it’ Well that settles it.

Show me one where it actively talked someone into suicide then, instead of generalized "whatever you do, you're doing great" slop. Even in the article linked above it never talked him into it, it just in some responses didn't talk him out of it. But essentially the entire "energy" towards that comes from the person, not the LLM.

Split hairs if you want, but some people will be manipulated into blowing a ton of money once AI starts pushing products. Just wait till they teams up with sports betting companies.

On a side note, researching this a little just now, the LLM conversations in the suicide articles are creeepy AF. Sycophantic beyond belief.

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