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Re: ICE takes back into custody man released for violation of rights

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Why do people flag anything related to ice coverage? Ice are literal nazis cracking down on dissent, dont support the administration. You gain nothing for fighting their battles online.

The people running YC and their entire social circle voted for this. Half of them are still riding the grift. Now they are all practicing for their Persilschein.

Re: ICE takes back into custody man released for violation of rights

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Why do people flag anything related to ice coverage? Ice are literal nazis cracking down on dissent, dont support the administration. You gain nothing for fighting their battles online.

Because the people who comment in these threads tend to be mind-killed by politics, and it serves very little purpose to have a threads full of such opinions.

So basically you’re trying to suppress opinions you don’t like or agree with, relevant or not?

Re: ICE takes back into custody man released for violation of rights

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the people who comment in these threads tend to be mind-killed by politics, and it serves very little purpose to have a threads full of such opinions.

So basically you’re trying to suppress opinions you don’t like or agree with, relevant or not?

Has nothing to do with me agreeing with them or not, they just tend to be low quality/value in general - more noise than signal on all sides.

Re: ICE takes back into custody man released for violation of rights

#34

Why do people flag anything related to ice coverage? Ice are literal nazis cracking down on dissent, dont support the administration. You gain nothing for fighting their battles online.

I think I can understand why someone from Europe or wherever else might flag these stories because they're not interested (...ignoring the whole Greenland elephant in the room for a second), but given that Scott Adams got a massive post on here despite the thread being mostly political shitflinging for obvious reasons it's really lowering my overall opinion of your average HN user. I'm increasingly inclined to say they need to show some information on who's flagging and why, especially if there's a consistent pattern and time of who is doing said flagging.

Some of the posts break thru the wave of people seemingly flagging these stories immediately like the Palantir stories but otherwise your best bet is having show dead on and looking in /Active instead.

Re: ICE takes back into custody man released for violation of rights

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So basically you’re trying to suppress opinions you don’t like or agree with, relevant or not?

Has nothing to do with me agreeing with them or not, they just tend to be low quality/value in general - more noise than signal on all sides.

I’ve been able to have some quality discussions around these issues but I get your perspective. I hope at some point soon, we as a country, can go back to viewing politics as a rational and civil discussion of differences in policy approaches rather than as a tribal team sport or as an excuse to push extremist positions.

Re: ICE takes back into custody man released for violation of rights

#36

In my view, no immunity attaches to a "law enforcement" officer's knowing violation of the letter or the spirit of court orders.

But who holds them accountable? The DOJ right? Is that who can pursue a case against government officials violating constitutional rights? If so, it’s not enough. We need a rethink of checks and balances. This was clear even after the first Trump administration but we’re well past that now, and in this first year the second Trump administration has conducted a lot more violations.

Sadly, it seems clear at this point it is going to fall to the citizens of these states united to hold them to account.

Re: ICE takes back into custody man released for violation of rights

#37

Why do people flag anything related to ice coverage? Ice are literal nazis cracking down on dissent, dont support the administration. You gain nothing for fighting their battles online.

I can only speak for myself. If the news article has anything to do with tech and things "interesting to hackers", I upvote. For example, the article about Palantir and ICE yesterday [1]. But articles like this one have nothing interesting to me. There are plenty of other places to discuss this like BlueSky, X, reddit, Facebook, etc. I beg you to please spare this last interesting forum.

Also it pisses me off how nobody talks about certain very relevant elephants in the room on these discussions. And it's more like venting and coping. Nobody will change their minds. Nothing will be done. Nothing is learned.

Note: I am not American.

[1] "The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46633378 622 points and 886 comments

Re: ICE takes back into custody man released for violation of rights

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This being flagged feels consistent with the attitudes of Silicon Valley and tech leadership generally.

This is guaranteed to blow up international trade with the US and one thing is for damn sure - that will silicon valley suffer enormously . It does not make sense.

The GF and I have had multiple conversations about how all these seemingly intelligent people don't: 1) care about anybody else; 2) realize that this too will negatively affect their lives; and I've come to the conclusion that these people are devoid of empathy, and they are narcissists who view themselves as being too important and powerful to be messed with. They'd never do that to me! That would never happen to me!

Re: ICE takes back into custody man released for violation of rights

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post #37

Why do people flag anything related to ice coverage? Ice are literal nazis cracking down on dissent, dont support the administration. You gain nothing for fighting their battles online.

I can only speak for myself. If the news article has anything to do with tech and things "interesting to hackers", I upvote. For example, the article about Palantir and ICE yesterday [1]. But articles like this one have nothing interesting to me. There are plenty of other places to discuss this like BlueSky, X, reddit, Facebook, etc. I beg you to please spare this last interesting forum. Also it pisses me off how nob…

Fair position. What are the relevant elephants in the room in your opinion, just out of genuine curiosity?
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