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Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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I don't know what gets through to the average voter. Maybe Jesse Ventura: https://youtube.com/watch?v=udSUbBhA8I0

We're going to have to wait until Boomers age out to get any form of common sense government. They've absolutely been the most damaging generation and will leave a wake of destruction for future generations to recover (or not) from.

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Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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If you live in Minnesota, please consider helping me transform rural politics. I’m the chair of the Agrarian Party of Minnesota [1], and candidate for the 20B legislative seat. Please consider running for office and providing a new hope for republicanism. I also seek help moving our statutes to a version control system, among other technical tools.

[1]: https://agrarianparty.org/

Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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Robby Roadsteamer (giraffe w/ g-string) was on Democracy Now! in two silent clips because ICE goons went across the street to arrest him specifically in retaliation. He was released within 5 minutes because of his army of lawyers waiting on the side and social media presence. Totally lawless 1a violations.

https://youtu.be/_IwSFqKc7-4

Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waiting doesn't work; ask me how I know :-) (I voted with my feet instead: it only takes ~2 years to learn a language) Actual substantive comment: My personal theory (looking from this side of the Atlantic) is that ICE got weaponised in this format precisely because the US Military wanted no part of thuggery, eg this 2020 memo: https://www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/CJCS%20Memo%20to%20... Is this a reasonable theor…

Interesting, where did you move?

Switzerland. Politics has gotten more polarised away from the centre towards the extremes here as well, but it's still a long way from a two-party state: https://www.aboutswitzerland.eda.admin.ch/en/political-parti...

Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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I don't know what gets through to the average voter. Maybe Jesse Ventura: https://youtube.com/watch?v=udSUbBhA8I0

We're going to have to wait until Boomers age out to get any form of common sense government. They've absolutely been the most damaging generation and will leave a wake of destruction for future generations to recover (or not) from.

Waiting is an excuse to do nothing. That's the loser's path.

Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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It will stand. Walz, Frey, & Co. have zero intention of protecting their citizens from ICE predation. The local police sit on their hands. But I'm sure this strongly worded editorial will get Trump to reconsider.

I'm asking this in good faith, but what can they do? The Trump administration is absolutely salivating for armed pushback. I think the best they can logistically do is refuse to help ICE (as local police are doing in some cities).

Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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If you live in Minnesota, please consider helping me transform rural politics. I’m the chair of the Agrarian Party of Minnesota [1], and candidate for the 20B legislative seat. Please consider running for office and providing a new hope for republicanism. I also seek help moving our statutes to a version control system, among other technical tools. [1]: https://agrarianparty.org/

PS: if you have a contact for Governor Ventura, please help connect us.

Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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>Perhaps it has to do with the method used? It was different because the sanctuary cities turned over lists of the students whose parents weren't citizens. It made it a lot easier. Also no media coverage. You won't know if the tactics were any different because democrat cities actually complied with the law. Again, it goes to democrats being hypocrites and selectively caring/enforcing issues when they think people ar…

many citations needed. You seem so fixated on communities not helping ICE to your satisfaction that you're blinded by ICE's atrocities. I guess your admission that you are an ICE employee or adjacent is enough explanation for that though.

Immigration law != Law enforcement

I worked for immigrants (and the companies sponsoring immigrants).

That said I am nuanced individual and believe in legal immigration and I think Biden letting in tens of millions illegally and all these sanctuary cities was eventually going to create some kind of legal conflict. It's obvious that municipal law cannot supersede federal law.

Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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> flouting It was never cities' job to enforce immigration law either, so legally cities were doing nothing wrong. Rather cities have been working to their own incentives about what best encourages local-law-abiding residents to work with police and get local crimes solved. Therefore, any so-called "flouting" is pure speech (either pragmatic or political) that we expect to have in an open society. You fascist booster…

>Why do you fascist cheerleaders always dress up Constitutionally-protected activity in emotionally charged language?

It's funny when people resort to name calling because you know they have no argument. I never even voted for Trump but I can call a ball or a strike on this without being blinded by political party preferences.

Also, the definition of flout is neutral it means to openly disregard something so I used it accurately. They call them sanctuary cities... they are openly communicating them as a place where federal laws will not be applied.

>At this point, smart money is on viewing Trump as a hybrid warfare attack by foreign powers on the US.

No, this is what old Boomers who watch too much brain rot like Rachel Maddow think. If there as a shred of evidence of this, they would have released it by now instead of whispering and alluding to it for a decade or more. It's nothing more than sour grapes from Hillary.

Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand

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> tens of millions of illegal immigrants Any chance you have a source for that? Based on everything I'm seeing there were at most a 5M increase in illegal immigrants under Biden. Which is way too many, but doesn't justify the extreme measures this administration is taking, harassing, shooting, obstructing the lives and livelihood of the entire city of Minneapolis. You mentioned the lack of fanfare around Obama's depo…

Numerous sources for that number. PEW, CBP (under Biden), etc. Just google it and it's widely sourced. https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-20-million-illegal-i...

I'm not angry and I'm not the one hurling insults. I simply see this as the logical reaction of the pendulum swinging in the opposite direction. The same forces that allowed this under Biden are what directly led to Trump.

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