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Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Some outlets reporting T-Mobile and ATT as well. I assume state on state cyber attacks are commonplace but get minimized to avoid public fear.. perhaps this will be the first notable one.

Estonia was the first major NATO victim of such things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_cyberattacks_on_Estonia

Made worse by the fact Estonia is a more networked society than, for example, the US.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

#32

The US would never purposefully cut of it's own communications, right? What would be the tells if that would have happened? And what could the average citizen do to be able to communicate regardless? Might be useful to always have that knowledge around, even if it isn't a personal threat to yourself today.

Sadly this has happened before:

BART Defends Cutting Off Cell Service In Subway

https://www.npr.org/2011/08/16/139664637/bart-defends-cuttin...

And will happen again.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

#33

I see multiple posts here speculating on cyberattack—as opposed to "we pushed a bad configuration update which messed everything up irreparably"—you know, like it has been every other time before this. E.g., Cloudflare, Meta (who in doing so also locked themselves out of the building), and didn't some bumbling major Canadian telco knock themselves offline for like a week not too long ago?

It's affecting every mobile carrier (ATT, TMO), not just Verizon

No, it's affecting Verizon and people on ATT & TMO trying to get in touch with the Verizon customers who are affected.

Note the tiny fraction of people reporting for ATT & TMO compared to Verizon on DownDetector: https://downdetector.com/

(You have to click the links to see actual magnitude because the graphs are scaled to show relative outage within a given service -- order of 150k for Verizon vs 1.5k for the others.)

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

#34

I see multiple posts here speculating on cyberattack—as opposed to "we pushed a bad configuration update which messed everything up irreparably"—you know, like it has been every other time before this. E.g., Cloudflare, Meta (who in doing so also locked themselves out of the building), and didn't some bumbling major Canadian telco knock themselves offline for like a week not too long ago?

That's not true though, sometimes it's inexplicitly DNS too.

it's always DNS

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

#35
post #27

I've got a Verizon Network Extender and it appears to be online - the tunnel is up back to VZW's security gateway, but all of my phones are refusing to register to it. I did manage to roam onto an international network on the boarder near me in New York/Canada, so some bits of the core seem functional for authentication. When I roam internationally I appear to be on Telus's 3G network (no LTE) for data and voice is f…

I could see Verizon access points but just couldn't connect to any of them. I had no issue sending texts over wifi though.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

#38

Our Comcast DNS keeps going in and out too, not clear if it is related or knock on effect or something else entirely.

I’m somewhat surprised you’re still using your ISP’s DNS when there’s ton of better free or paid options.

"You relied on a service you pay for to actually work? What are you, stupid?"

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m somewhat surprised you’re still using your ISP’s DNS when there’s ton of better free or paid options.

"You relied on a service you pay for to actually work? What are you, stupid?"

When that service actively spies on you, then yes, that is stupid...

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

#40

I see multiple posts here speculating on cyberattack—as opposed to "we pushed a bad configuration update which messed everything up irreparably"—you know, like it has been every other time before this. E.g., Cloudflare, Meta (who in doing so also locked themselves out of the building), and didn't some bumbling major Canadian telco knock themselves offline for like a week not too long ago?

I worked at a major ISP and we had a similar situation where the North East went down and the RC was a fiber cut at a major node in Philly.

These network topologies are incredibly complex and edges you think wouldn't exist have ways of suddenly appearing when things go awry.

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