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Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by remarkEon »

csomar wrote: post #16
observationist wrote: post #3

This looks like it might be the end for the current regime. There are still people getting information out, and they are tearing down and burning state buildings - around 3000 protesters killed since the crackdown began, but there appear to be tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people who have risen up against the ayatollah, with an unknown number of state forces and officials killed. Crazy start to the year.

Very unlikely. Unlike Syria or Venezuela, the Iranian regime has an ideological base and a very solid base of supporters. A civil war has more odds than that base of supporters accepting a new secular regime.

I’ve been looking for data on this. Has anyone quantified what the regime’s base of support actually is amongst the general population?

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by OKRainbowKid »

nalekberov wrote: post #27
submeta wrote: post #13

Western governments do not want democracy in Iran. They want the son of Shah back in Iran, the Shah whose father tortured and exploited Iranians, and that led to the revolution and the rise of the mullahs. The US and Israel want regime change so Israel can dominate the ME. Just like they replaced Assad in Syria by Jolani, a wanted Al Qaeda terrorist who does not oppose Israel in any way but slaughter kurds and alavit…

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Why?

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by zjzkshz »

bpt3 wrote: post #29
submeta wrote: post #13

Western governments do not want democracy in Iran. They want the son of Shah back in Iran, the Shah whose father tortured and exploited Iranians, and that led to the revolution and the rise of the mullahs. The US and Israel want regime change so Israel can dominate the ME. Just like they replaced Assad in Syria by Jolani, a wanted Al Qaeda terrorist who does not oppose Israel in any way but slaughter kurds and alavit…

Weird, I have seen literally nothing supporting these claims at all from a remotely reliable source. For example, it's interesting that the US would declare Jolani a terrorist if they were in support of his regime.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna185076

There was a large bounty on his head until recently because of his atrocities.

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by Cyph0n »

observationist wrote: post #3

This looks like it might be the end for the current regime. There are still people getting information out, and they are tearing down and burning state buildings - around 3000 protesters killed since the crackdown began, but there appear to be tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people who have risen up against the ayatollah, with an unknown number of state forces and officials killed. Crazy start to the year.

This is not going to happen.

It might have been a possibility if Israel didn’t decide to start a war and assassination campaign against Iran.

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by bpt3 »

zjzkshz wrote: post #30
submeta wrote: post #13

Western governments do not want democracy in Iran. They want the son of Shah back in Iran, the Shah whose father tortured and exploited Iranians, and that led to the revolution and the rise of the mullahs. The US and Israel want regime change so Israel can dominate the ME. Just like they replaced Assad in Syria by Jolani, a wanted Al Qaeda terrorist who does not oppose Israel in any way but slaughter kurds and alavit…

I don’t get the downvotes either. Everything you’ve mentioned is pretty easily verifiable and not disputed.

It's being downvoted because it's mostly nonsense based on what I'm aware of.

Please enlighten us with some of this easily verifiable information.

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by neoromantique »

submeta wrote: post #13

Western governments do not want democracy in Iran. They want the son of Shah back in Iran, the Shah whose father tortured and exploited Iranians, and that led to the revolution and the rise of the mullahs. The US and Israel want regime change so Israel can dominate the ME. Just like they replaced Assad in Syria by Jolani, a wanted Al Qaeda terrorist who does not oppose Israel in any way but slaughter kurds and alavit…

1) Cry me a river about bloody dictators being deposed, wah wah.

2) Nobody is asking to "accept Israel's dominance", but dropping the "Destruction of Israel" as one of the main goals of the state would be a quite welcome.

The world does not revolve around Israel, and the less bloody dictators it has (theocratic or not) the better.

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by submeta »

neoromantique wrote: post #37
submeta wrote: post #13

Western governments do not want democracy in Iran. They want the son of Shah back in Iran, the Shah whose father tortured and exploited Iranians, and that led to the revolution and the rise of the mullahs. The US and Israel want regime change so Israel can dominate the ME. Just like they replaced Assad in Syria by Jolani, a wanted Al Qaeda terrorist who does not oppose Israel in any way but slaughter kurds and alavit…

1) Cry me a river about bloody dictators being deposed, wah wah. 2) Nobody is asking to "accept Israel's dominance", but dropping the "Destruction of Israel" as one of the main goals of the state would be a quite welcome. The world does not revolve around Israel, and the less bloody dictators it has (theocratic or not) the better.

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Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by blobbers »

Well, if their kids are anything like our kids, they'll certainly have more student protests. Maybe not against the regime, but certainly against their parents.

And I'm not talking about university. I'm talking about the hoards of kids that want to play Roblox. It's been a nightmare keeping my kids off of it but I continue to fight the online lifestyle!

Re: Iran has now been offline for 96 hours

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Post by remarkEon »

submeta wrote: post #13

Western governments do not want democracy in Iran. They want the son of Shah back in Iran, the Shah whose father tortured and exploited Iranians, and that led to the revolution and the rise of the mullahs. The US and Israel want regime change so Israel can dominate the ME. Just like they replaced Assad in Syria by Jolani, a wanted Al Qaeda terrorist who does not oppose Israel in any way but slaughter kurds and alavit…

The US supported, albeit tacitly, the revolution that put the Ayatollahs in power in the first place.
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