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Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by pbohun »

epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

It sounds weird to say, but Steve Ballmer was probably the best CEO of Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by badc0ffee »

richard_chase wrote: post #14

I switched to Linux after Windows started showing me propaganda on the screen where you enter your password. To me, that's diabolical and forced me to make the switch. Sorry, I don't wish to "Learn more about Black-Owned Businesses" just to access my computer.

We updated my MIL's computer to Windows 11 and now it's giving her ads about Xbox something or other on the login screen. She is in her 80s and has no idea what an Xbox even is.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by duskdozer »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #25
mixel wrote: post #3

It's not shocking they added even more bloatware to every microsoft program so even with the same OS kernel it would probably take longer. At this point it also got out of hand for Microsoft themselves if you have heard how they are going to speed up the explorer. Not by making it faster but by preloading it on startup so it feels snappier, there are 20 years of technical debt in I think you cannot save this anymore…

The last time this subject came up someone in the thread jumped up to explain to me how Windows 11 has all these great new features that make it worth being many times less performant. Every feature they listed was some anti-consumer thing that only a corporate customer would ever care about or want. Every single one. What I learned is that Windows 11 is great for the customer, I'm just not the customer. I'm just the…

Hm, I asked Copilot and it told me everything you said was a nasty, nasty lie.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by spikej »

epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

Even without the AI, it's replacing native apps with web based ones. Case in point: Notepad. It's slower than WordPad on Win 10... and crashes!

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by zamadatix »

the__alchemist wrote: post #10
1-6 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 11 doesn't support Intel CPUs older than 8th gens. Linux is no longer an alternative, it's a lifeline for many old yet very capable machines. What is Microsoft trying to do by ending Windows 10 support?

I believe it does, but only from a clean install, rather than an in-place upgrade; I ran into this a few years ago.

By default the official unmodified Windows 11 ISO enforces CPU, RAM, and TPM/Secure Boot checks. You can bypass these by customizing the installer, configuring some things at install runtime, installing on one machine and moving it over, etc and it may work but the resulting install is not officially supported unless the machine meets the requirements described under https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica.... Some ISO-to-USB tools like Rufus can make doing this as easy as a checkbox.

I've run many machines this way without issue yet, but it's not officially supported. I'm hoping Microsoft will really just make "Windows 12" or something if they ever decide to make these true hard requirements to load at all instead of just be supported.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by driggs »

bob1029 wrote: post #19
mixel wrote: post #3

It's not shocking they added even more bloatware to every microsoft program so even with the same OS kernel it would probably take longer. At this point it also got out of hand for Microsoft themselves if you have heard how they are going to speed up the explorer. Not by making it faster but by preloading it on startup so it feels snappier, there are 20 years of technical debt in I think you cannot save this anymore…

> there are 20 years of technical debt The only part of windows that really matters in the long run is win32 which has been extremely stable. You could go back to XP and not lose that many features. The fact that modern windows runs like ass has very little to do with backwards compatibility.

Windows 2000 or Windows XP - with security updates and modern hardware support - is exactly what I want.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by baddie_twoshoes »

Don't software products tend to get slower, not faster, with each release? I think Windows 7 vs Vista was the only time I remember things getting better.

IOS 26 is also terrible (on battery especially). New OS releases always have a ton of new services in them that bog them down.

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