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Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by observationist »

BeetleB wrote: post #20
satvikpendem wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> researchers found that searching symptoms online modestly boosted patients’ ability to accurately diagnose health issues without increasing their anxiety or misleading them to seek care inappropriately [...] the results of this survey study challenge the common belief among clinicians and policy-makers that using the Internet to search for health information is harmful. [0] For example, "man Googles rash, discovers…

Indeed. My doctor likes it when people search the Internet - as long as they come to him before doing anything drastic.

If there's a reasonable audit trail for the doctor to verify that valid differential reasoning was done that they can quickly verify, there's relatively few downsides and lots of upsides for them.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by rightbyte »

roger_ wrote: post #22

I personally don’t care who has access to my health data, but I understand those who might. Either way, I’m excited for some actual innovation in the personal health field. Apple Health is more about aggregating data than actually producing actionable insights. 23andme was mostly useless. Today I have a ChatGPT project with my health history as a system prompt and it’s been very helpful. Recently I snapped a photo of…

Are you giving your vitals to Sam Altman just like that? What instrument?

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by roger_ »

MattDaEskimo wrote: post #29
roger_ wrote: post #22

I personally don’t care who has access to my health data, but I understand those who might. Either way, I’m excited for some actual innovation in the personal health field. Apple Health is more about aggregating data than actually producing actionable insights. 23andme was mostly useless. Today I have a ChatGPT project with my health history as a system prompt and it’s been very helpful. Recently I snapped a photo of…

I'm sorry, but seriously? How could you not care who has your health data? I think the more plausible comment is "I've been protected my whole life by health data privacy laws that I have no idea what the other side looks like". Quite frankly, this is even worse as it can and will override doctors orders and feed into people's delusions as an "expert".

I’d rather have all my health data be used in a way that can actually help me, even with a risk of a breach or misuse, than having it in a folder somewhere doing nothing.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by jostmey »

The old chat gpt models scanning the nih pub med repositories with proper prompting (e.g. …backed by randomized control trial data) was an amazing health care tool. The stripped down cheaper versions today are junk and I’ve had to start relying on grok :-( I’m not convinced OpenAI can make this work

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by roger_ »

rightbyte wrote: post #32
roger_ wrote: post #22

I personally don’t care who has access to my health data, but I understand those who might. Either way, I’m excited for some actual innovation in the personal health field. Apple Health is more about aggregating data than actually producing actionable insights. 23andme was mostly useless. Today I have a ChatGPT project with my health history as a system prompt and it’s been very helpful. Recently I snapped a photo of…

Are you giving your vitals to Sam Altman just like that? What instrument?

Yes, if it will help me and others. Again, I understand those who disagree.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by dmmartins »

MattDaEskimo wrote: post #29
roger_ wrote: post #22

I personally don’t care who has access to my health data, but I understand those who might. Either way, I’m excited for some actual innovation in the personal health field. Apple Health is more about aggregating data than actually producing actionable insights. 23andme was mostly useless. Today I have a ChatGPT project with my health history as a system prompt and it’s been very helpful. Recently I snapped a photo of…

I'm sorry, but seriously? How could you not care who has your health data? I think the more plausible comment is "I've been protected my whole life by health data privacy laws that I have no idea what the other side looks like". Quite frankly, this is even worse as it can and will override doctors orders and feed into people's delusions as an "expert".

I don't care either. Why should I? I go to the doctor once a year and it's always the same. Not much to do with that data

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by barbazoo »

vimda wrote: post #30

This reads like desperation to get a headline more than an actual product, especially when half the links don't even work

I heard the links are lazily auto vibe coded when enough people click on them /s

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by websiteapi »

roger_ wrote: post #22

I personally don’t care who has access to my health data, but I understand those who might. Either way, I’m excited for some actual innovation in the personal health field. Apple Health is more about aggregating data than actually producing actionable insights. 23andme was mostly useless. Today I have a ChatGPT project with my health history as a system prompt and it’s been very helpful. Recently I snapped a photo of…

If an insight led you or a family member to being misdiagnosed and crippled would you just say it’s their or your own fault? If it were a doctor would you have the same opinion?

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by AppleBananaPie »

avgDev wrote: post #17
thisislife2 wrote: post #5

I pity the doctors who will now have to deal with such self-diagnosed "patients". Wonder if General Medicine doctors will see a drop in patient, as AI convinces you to see a specialist with its diagnosis?

Then you have not dealt with doctors. Some physicians are absolutely useless and sometimes worse than not receiving any treatment at all. Medicine is dynamic and changes all the time. Some doctors refuse to move forward. When I was younger I've had a sports injury. I was misdiagnosed for months until I did my own research and had the issue fixed with a surgery. I have many more stories of doctors being straight up wr…

I sadly have to agree with you. I had a 30+ year orthopedic surgeon confidently tell me my ACL wasn't torn.

Two years later when I got it fixed the new surgeon said there was nothing left of the old one on the MRI so it must have been torn 1.5-2+ years ago.

On the other hand, to be fair to doctors, I had a phase of looking into supplements and learned the hard lesson that you really need to dig into the research or find a very trusted source to have any idea of what's real because I definitely thought for a bit a few were useful that were definitely not :)

And also to be fair to doctors I have family members who are the "never wrong" types and are always talking about whatever doctor of the day is wrong about what they need.

My current opinion is using LLMs for this, in regards to it informing or misinforming, is no different than most other things. For some people this will be valuable and potentially dramatically help them, and for others it might serve to send them further down roads of misinformation / conspiracies.

I guess I ultimately think this is a good thing because people capable of informing themselves will be able to do so more effectively and, sadly, the other folks are (realistically) probably a lost cause but at the very least we need to do better educating our children in critical thinking and being ok with being wrong.

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