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Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
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Re: Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
#32If it happened by force, then the US has attacked the EU. I almost cannot conceive that it would happen. However, if it does, the EU would have to force all US military personnel stationed on the bases across the EU to leave the region.
Why let them walk away? I can't imagine it happening either, but if it happens, they are enemy combatants. EU should arrest them and treat them as prisoners of war.
Re: Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
#33If it happened by force, then the US has attacked the EU. I almost cannot conceive that it would happen. However, if it does, the EU would have to force all US military personnel stationed on the bases across the EU to leave the region.
EU and NATO, NATO is larger than the EU itself. It would be a political, economic, and military disaster (even if the US "wins" the conflict) for the US. Losing 31 ally nations (possibly more) overnight and all those facilities would be a long-term military disaster, and a longer-term political disaster. Who would ever ally with the US again for the next several decades knowing that the US will turn on allies?
There is no law of geopolitical physics that says regime change operations must be confined to developing countries. In the event of a serious deterioration in US-EU relations you shouldn't expect the US to sit idle. The European far right does not care about Greenland one bit.
We could very well end up in a situation where we have the US and Russia working together to destabilize the EU, perhaps European leaders fear this and will let Greenland go.
Re: Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
#34If it happened by force, then the US has attacked the EU. I almost cannot conceive that it would happen. However, if it does, the EU would have to force all US military personnel stationed on the bases across the EU to leave the region.
Why let them walk away? I can't imagine it happening either, but if it happens, they are enemy combatants. EU should arrest them and treat them as prisoners of war.
You must have forgotten the world has rules and weight classes. But reality hits hard and doesn't care. The USA with this administration is not to be tested. If there is anything you can say about trump. The world is actually terrified at what he will do because he will do anything he thinks is right. Not what is. But he's controlling the strongest most intelligent military on the planet. If you think war or capturing prisoners as another country is safe. You're dumber than the ring leader himself.
Re: Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
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Other than USA at the moment, who exactly should Greenland be afraid of? If for whatever reason Russia would invade Greenland, then Denmark will invoke article 5. Even if US ignores that, the rest of Europe would fight Russia on Greenland, which in turn would spill over to Europe, and WW3 is a thing. When the US argues that Greenland is defenseless without them, it's the same as the mafia telling a shop owner that he…
No one is fighting over the 30k people in Greenland. They are a colony of Denmark today and the argument is by what right? This is precedent. If the USA believes it is necessary to her security to liberate Greenland from Danish colonialism then what leg do the Danes stand on? They have a greater right to colonial rule?
Re: Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
#36If it happened by force, then the US has attacked the EU. I almost cannot conceive that it would happen. However, if it does, the EU would have to force all US military personnel stationed on the bases across the EU to leave the region.
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Re: Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
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EU and NATO, NATO is larger than the EU itself. It would be a political, economic, and military disaster (even if the US "wins" the conflict) for the US. Losing 31 ally nations (possibly more) overnight and all those facilities would be a long-term military disaster, and a longer-term political disaster. Who would ever ally with the US again for the next several decades knowing that the US will turn on allies?
This. I would hope for this. Let them take Greenland to save lives. But while the win the battle they lose the war. No more NATO. No more allies in Europe. The next time something goes wrong America will be alone because Trump ruined anything decent with America.
Trump already has ruined America. I'm not sure Americans understand how alienating this stuff is. As a formerly very Atlanticist Brit who used to genuinely look up to America and thought we had so much to learn from it, this shit is completely insane. The Americans have gone insane.
Re: Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
#38If it happened by force, then the US has attacked the EU. I almost cannot conceive that it would happen. However, if it does, the EU would have to force all US military personnel stationed on the bases across the EU to leave the region.
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Replacing one colonial ruler with another colonial ruler, at best, whilst losing every single one of America's allies in the process. Truly the Art of the Deal.
Re: Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
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This is what I thought about his tariff talk and then Obliteration Day happened.
The tariffs turned on a fat revenue stream for Trump's Treasury. And brought a long queue of kneelers to his door, begging for tariff exemptions for their businesses.
But that's a bad thing, special exemptions to tariffs based on patronage is good for Trump but terrible for the US. That's exactly one of the biggest reasons tariffs are so bad.
Re: Trump serious about wanting to take over Greenland, says Danish prime minister
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Other than USA at the moment, who exactly should Greenland be afraid of? If for whatever reason Russia would invade Greenland, then Denmark will invoke article 5. Even if US ignores that, the rest of Europe would fight Russia on Greenland, which in turn would spill over to Europe, and WW3 is a thing. When the US argues that Greenland is defenseless without them, it's the same as the mafia telling a shop owner that he…
No one is fighting over the 30k people in Greenland. They are a colony of Denmark today and the argument is by what right? This is precedent. If the USA believes it is necessary to her security to liberate Greenland from Danish colonialism then what leg do the Danes stand on? They have a greater right to colonial rule?
Stephen Miller, is that you?
Yes people are going to fight, even if it’s a losing battle.
There’s no scenario where Denmark simply lays down, or where the citizens of Greenland will just let the US roll over.
That’s a fantasy being perpetuated by the far-right, and swallowed whole by clueless Americans high on American exceptionalism.