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There were BGP anomalies during the Venezuela blackout

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Re: There were BGP anomalies during the Venezuela blackout

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Post by TheAlchemist »

catigula wrote: post #11

Cyber-warfare capabilities on this level seem pretty horrific. What if you could simply turn off the power grid of Kyiv or Moscow in anticipation of a strike? That seems extremely disorientating. What if you could simply turn off the power grid indefinitely?

Something like this more or less happened during the initial Israeli strike on Iran ?

From what I remember reading, they were able to gain air dominance not because Iranian air-defense was bad, but because it was put almost completely out of service for a brief period of time by people on the ground - be it through sabotage, cyber-warfare, drone attacks from inside, allowing the Israeli jets to annihilate them.

Re: There were BGP anomalies during the Venezuela blackout

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Post by Terr_ »

eastbound wrote: post #7
kachapopopow wrote: post #2

I wonder what kind of capabilities the US army didn't use during this operation.

Let’s be honest, that was a crazy operation. I wonder whether they really secured all chances of success, or just winged it with chances of not depositing the leader, and him being able to summon his diplomatic relations into 50 countries declaring war to the USA. While on their way out, if the USA could set everything back to IPv6, that would be nice.

The outcome is less-crazy if one views it as assisting a palace-coup, partnering with a bunch of Venezuelan government and military insiders already seeking to depose Maduro, able to subtly clear the path and provide intel.

Re: There were BGP anomalies during the Venezuela blackout

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Post by ceejayoz »

9cb14c1ec0 wrote: post #24
ceejayoz wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What if you could simply turn off the power grid of Kyiv or Moscow in anticipation of a strike? I expect every major world power has a plan to (attempt to) do precisely that to their enemies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_bomb > The US Navy used sea-launched Tomahawk missiles with Kit-2 warheads, involving reels of carbon fibers, in Iraq as part of Operation Desert Storm during the Gulf War in 1991, where…

General Caine specifically said they utilized CYBERCOM (which is the US inter-branch hacking command) to pave the way for the special ops helicopters. I personally have no doubt that any (whether or not they all were) lights being out was due to a US hack. Some of the stuff that got blown up may well have been to prevent forensic recover of US tools and techniques.

I have no doubt they used cyberattacks and electronic warfare.

Trump just seems the worst person in the world to play a game of telephone with on such a subject.

For example: https://www.defensenews.com/air/2025/05/16/pentagon-silent-a...

> “The F-35, we’re doing an upgrade, a simple upgrade,” Trump said. “But we’re also doing an F-55, I’m going to call it an F-55. And that’s going to be a substantial upgrade. But it’s going to be also with two engines.”

> Frank Kendall, the secretary of the Air Force during former President Joe Biden’s administration, said in an interview with Defense News that it is unclear what Trump was referring to when he discussed an “F-22 Super,” but it may have been a reference to the F-47 sixth-generation fighter jet… Kendall said it is also unclear what Trump was referring to when he discussed the alleged F-55.

Re: There were BGP anomalies during the Venezuela blackout

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Post by catigula »

TheAlchemist wrote: post #31
catigula wrote: post #11

Cyber-warfare capabilities on this level seem pretty horrific. What if you could simply turn off the power grid of Kyiv or Moscow in anticipation of a strike? That seems extremely disorientating. What if you could simply turn off the power grid indefinitely?

Something like this more or less happened during the initial Israeli strike on Iran ? From what I remember reading, they were able to gain air dominance not because Iranian air-defense was bad, but because it was put almost completely out of service for a brief period of time by people on the ground - be it through sabotage, cyber-warfare, drone attacks from inside, allowing the Israeli jets to annihilate them.

The unquestioning logistical and intelligence support from the US military is truly formidable, and probably expensive.

Re: There were BGP anomalies during the Venezuela blackout

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Post by erxam »

refulgentis wrote: post #21
agumonkey wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the rest of the world is weirdly too passive, there's a smell of shock

IMHO the rest of the world isn't asleep. Denmark's prime minister said the same as you, for example. US just got roasted at UN by inter alia, France, with ~20 countries either speaking the same or asking to speak on it. That's just from 30s with front page of nytimes.com.

That just sounds like more 'strongly worded letters' which never go anywhere and they never do anything about.

It's over for the EU. They rested on their laurels for too long and cowardice rotted them from the inside.

I don't think Denmark will put even a smidge of resistance up. Trump is going to bark some orders, boots are going to hit the ground and it's fait accompli.

Re: There were BGP anomalies during the Venezuela blackout

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Post by floatrock »

bakies wrote: post #9
subzidion wrote: post #3

There were reports they had considered Christmas Day and New Year's Day. I wonder if it was far enough along that you could see similar BGP anomalies around those times.

Not from the cloudflare dashboard, you can zoom out. The night of the attack doesnt even really stand out as abnormal when zooming out that far.

So you're saying I can't set an alert for these conditions and use the timing to place a quick bet on the geopolitical polymarket du-jour?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-polymarket-user-made-more...

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