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Re: GOG Patrons- Join gamers keeping classics alive

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A noble goal, but I'd be shocked if they manage to compete in the preservation realm against Good Old Piracy™.

Speaking personally I'd rather pay a few dollars than risk my PC getting Good Old Virusy, which may or may not be a real risk, but is certainly an idea that puts me off pirating software.

This is why "social" piracy is a good thing (?? arguably, let's not get into the ethics), e.g. torrent sites with comments and a reporting and voting system.

Re: GOG Patrons- Join gamers keeping classics alive

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Emphasis added: > The GOG Preservation Program is our ongoing effort to save classic games from being lost to time. That means working to secure rights , fixing compatibility so they run hassle-free on modern systems, and even rebuilding missing features so the experience is the best you can get, while staying true to the original. It still baffles me how the "rights" to a game (or any IP) can be a thing when the com…

Only the PC version of the original version of Resident Evil was unavailable. It had a Remake in 2003, a port to the DS in 2006 and AFAIK has been and still is available for purchase on PSN in PS1 form for PS3, PSP and Vita since 2009 and PS4/PS5 since 2022. That's not even counting all the sequels and movies. And the PC port is generally considered, not the best.

There's better examples like No One Lives Forever that have been stuck unavailable for purchase because of rights reasons but RE1 is arguably not that.

Re: GOG Patrons- Join gamers keeping classics alive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically it is the problem with GOG also, I think that if you do nothing the game is Abandonware and I don't think that anyone can go after you to use it pirated or whatever, and even distribute it. Maybe it is shady, but something like that if there is no commercial activity and the IP violation is not enforced for some many times, it can be considered that you are responsible for this and there was no legal way fo…

This is a deeply flawed argument. The idea that folks focused on preservation are creating a legal hazard is false. Copyright law does not care whether the "IP is active". What GOG is doing here is an unmitigated good. To be clear, there is no "commercially abandoned" element to copyright, even if there should be.

In fact there's no commercial requirement at all for copyright, abandoned or otherwise.

You can make a thing, copyright it, and also never sell, see for example open source software. You can even copyright something that nobody's seen before.

Copyright, patent, and trademark all have substantial differences.

Re: GOG Patrons- Join gamers keeping classics alive

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Honestly I find GOG's whole mission of "update old games for modern Windows" kinda weird when I compare it to what people who want to play old console games do: they just fire up an emulator. Running a virtual Windows machine sounds like a much easier solution than individually patching every crusty old executable to run on the modern OS, and re-patching every single one of them when MS rolls out yet another new graphics/controller system a few years down the line.

Re: GOG Patrons- Join gamers keeping classics alive

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post #2

A noble goal, but I'd be shocked if they manage to compete in the preservation realm against Good Old Piracy™.

Speaking personally I'd rather pay a few dollars than risk my PC getting Good Old Virusy, which may or may not be a real risk, but is certainly an idea that puts me off pirating software.

For many older games, I've been in the habit of running them inside VMs for this very reason.

Re: GOG Patrons- Join gamers keeping classics alive

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So let me get this straight, GOG, a privately owned company, wants me to donate money to them so that they can buy the rights to games in order to sell them to me?

Yeah my first reaction was, what the heck is is this ? Now I can imagine having specific campaigns. Let's say they need $50,000 to release an upgraded port of Shining Force. Cool, I might be open to pre-ordering it at $25 so they can see if there's enough interest to proceed. But why am I going to literally just donate to a private company. I think the entire world has gone mad, there's not even a real product here.…

I would be happy to donate to campaigns to buy old ip (video games, but also music, movies, old tabletop rpgs etc) to then slap an open license on and release for free. Seems like a good investment for the future, to get as much content as possible away from rights hoarders.

I am also happy to buy more old games from GOG than I ever have the time to play, so they already get my money.

Not so sure about this patreon thing though.

Re: GOG Patrons- Join gamers keeping classics alive

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Honestly I find GOG's whole mission of "update old games for modern Windows" kinda weird when I compare it to what people who want to play old console games do: they just fire up an emulator . Running a virtual Windows machine sounds like a much easier solution than individually patching every crusty old executable to run on the modern OS, and re-patching every single one of them when MS rolls out yet another new gra…

Their DOS releases are fantastic. I install the games, then copy the files to my virtual C: directory for DOSBox-X and know those games will always Just Work and I will never have to reinstall anything or mess with configurations. Some games I also copy to my phone to play in DOSBox in Android.

To repeat myself from old threads, it would be awesome to have something like a WindowsBOX, like DOSBox but emulating (probably) Windows 98SE, fully open source. GOG could use that for old Windows games and never have to modify the games themselves. I would be happy to support GOG developing an emulator like that, rather than making old games run on new Windows.

Re: GOG Patrons- Join gamers keeping classics alive

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I would sign up if they promise to release the games they get with the money into public domain.

That would be cool, but they probably only get rights to sell the games, not full ownership of all rights.

So we pay more. Many owners of very old good, but mostly forgotten, games must know that the rights are basically worthless anyway.

Re: GOG Patrons- Join gamers keeping classics alive

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Emphasis added: > The GOG Preservation Program is our ongoing effort to save classic games from being lost to time. That means working to secure rights , fixing compatibility so they run hassle-free on modern systems, and even rebuilding missing features so the experience is the best you can get, while staying true to the original. It still baffles me how the "rights" to a game (or any IP) can be a thing when the com…

Sometimes, the legal situation is complicated, especially with old content. Sometimes the technical situation is also complicated, very typical for old games. Not releasing, can't be automatically considered abandoned; we just don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
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