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HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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I thought Google removed the API that let you see other apps on the device. Maybe there's another API I'm not aware of though

It's still possible, you just need to declare which other apps you query for. Even then, there are loopholes that still let you query for all apps installed on the device.

But HSBC app declares "" permission, which requires an explicit approval (https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ...) but

> Apps that have a verifiable core purpose facilitating financial-transactions involving financially regulated instruments (for example, dedicated banking, dedicated digital wallets) may obtain broad visibility into installed apps solely for security-based purposes.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

#33

I thought Google removed the API that let you see other apps on the device. Maybe there's another API I'm not aware of though

You can still request permission to use it for apps distributed via Google Play for a limited set of use cases: https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ... which is then subject to Google reviewing and approving it. I assume HSBC are using the "antivirus" use case.

> I assume HSBC are using the "antivirus" use case.

There's an exception for banking apps

> Apps that have a verifiable core purpose facilitating financial-transactions involving financially regulated instruments (for example, dedicated banking, dedicated digital wallets) may obtain broad visibility into installed apps solely for security-based purposes.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An Italian citizen who was debanked essentially because Trump didn't like her: https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-12-28/the-comp... When it comes to this kind of thing, an injury to one is an injury to all and we need to not tolerate it. At minimum, we need regulations guaranteeing that Visa and MasterCard, as well as participating banks, aren't allowed to debank anyone without judicial oversight. Make the…

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First of all you need to provide some proof because being against a genocide is not antisemitic. Hating Israel is not antisemitic even if Bibi wants you to believe that.

Second of all, what happened to free speech? In fact I can list several actual antisemites currently operating freely in the US political discourse who are gathering larger and larger audiences. Why aren't they being sanctioned?

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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post #5

We can't let banking apps invade our property.. things like banking apps need so much control in order to be secure that they need to exist on dedicated devices.

> things like banking apps need so much control in order to be secure They don’t. It’s a security theatre.

In Spain (I think the whole Hispano-America by proxy) the BBVA's banking app just allow a 6 char long password. This is bullshit. Also, if you try to root the smartphone the app might disable itself. I'm tired of this. Can't wait to a good cyber attack from Russia+China so the whole security theater crumbles down (and in China too because of the social credit) until the civil rights get restored back.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An Italian citizen who was debanked essentially because Trump didn't like her: https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-12-28/the-comp... When it comes to this kind of thing, an injury to one is an injury to all and we need to not tolerate it. At minimum, we need regulations guaranteeing that Visa and MasterCard, as well as participating banks, aren't allowed to debank anyone without judicial oversight. Make the…

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It doesn't. I don't know if she's an antisemite, but unless the bank dumps her for being one and an Italian judge agrees that they're allowed to for that reason, this is a clear result of foreign political influence.

Calling the UN special rapporteur for the Palestinian territories a "vile antisemite" sounds a lot like trolling, though.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and the EU are being de-banked by local banks because of US pressure allowing them to force any bank that wants to use USD What is this about? I'm a EU citizen, never heard about any EU citizen getting removed from any EU bank because of USD. Nor have I heard anyone being sanctioned by the US in the EU unless they're Russia-related somehow. Is there any link to a story about this?

https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-12-28/the-comp...

That sort of sanctioning is world-wide, isn't it? Not specifically targeting EU banks, but rather she's blacklisted from any bank in the world who follows those blacklisting lists, at least from what I understand it.

Parent's comment gave me the impression that this was something exclusive to EU (and Swiss) banks in particular, since they were mentioned by name.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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post #5

We can't let banking apps invade our property.. things like banking apps need so much control in order to be secure that they need to exist on dedicated devices.

> things like banking apps need so much control in order to be secure They don’t. It’s a security theatre.

"At , my voice is my password."
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