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The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #27

My father was gifted a pair of these for his 50th birthday, would have been 1989, in London. Little ICE scooters. They were a lot of fun and not very safe. We had drunk guests damaging themselves in the street. They became toys for my brothers and I, who had plenty of accidents but learnt to ride them reasonably. The engines didn’t idle particularly well and had no gears. You had to pull start, hop on and go quickly…

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Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #27

My father was gifted a pair of these for his 50th birthday, would have been 1989, in London. Little ICE scooters. They were a lot of fun and not very safe. We had drunk guests damaging themselves in the street. They became toys for my brothers and I, who had plenty of accidents but learnt to ride them reasonably. The engines didn’t idle particularly well and had no gears. You had to pull start, hop on and go quickly…

Must have been two stroke, 4 stroke motors are too large and heavy for an application like that.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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Did someone actually think scooters were new? We had them growing up, I thought it was common knowledge the only thing novel about e-bikes and e-scooters were the lithium ion batteries and electric motors giving adequate runtime and performance.

You could drive a moped on city streets before you turned 16 which got a lot of teenagers in my hometown to work and sports in the summer when their parents couldn’t.

But they were slow, noisy, and smelly compared to a modern ebike.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #6

> The e-scooters that clutter up pavements may seem like a new thing, but a hundred years ago, there were already people zooming around London on powered scooters. The problem is that we've given so much space to automobiles that there's no room for anything else (bikes, scooters, etc). Pedestrians have been given a sliver only because drivers need to walk between parking and their destination. This is true even in c…

Probably cause modern logistics, especially last mile logistics, is dependent on trucks/delivery vans/etc. So even though folks in a local area might like to walk around, their groceries won’t make it to the stores and packages won’t get to their homes without a robust road network. I think Bacerlona hits a good compromise. The city has the concept of a superblock, which is a few city blocks grouped into one calm zon…

Smaller trucks. Japan makes due with one-lane alleys. (Not one in each direction. One. Deliveries and vehicular traffic are so uncommon, and the tightness of the space so inconducive to speeding, that it's safe for trucks and cars to go down them in whichever direction they need to.)

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate this. Why not show us the actual photo. Infuriating

Technically they do, just split into chunks interleaved with AI generated background. Original: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Norman#/media/File:L...

>just split into chunks interleaved with AI

That would be relatively benign, the other possibility is that the whole thing was encoded and then decoded through some neural representation.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #35

God every website is such garbage these days. 1 second timer, full page pop up. Geolocation logging to sell to advertisers... I'm just not gonna read the article. It's a shame cause it looks interesting

I googled Autoped and found this site about the topic. Much cleaner.

https://horizonmicromobility.com/blogs/micromobility-blog/hi...

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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First off, the price: £36 was much more than "£1,600 in today’s money". A railway clerk made £2 12 0 in a week in 1917, (less than £10/month if I did the shillings and all that properly), which makes the scooter price the equivalent of 3.5 months, which is £7,000 at the lowest end of today's London North Eastern Railway salary range. The fact that the picture has Lady something in it, suggests it was more of an upper-class thingy.

Second, the scooter may not be new, the cluttering certainly is. Look at that empty street!

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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I’m sorry but this article‘s headline/thesis is atrocious. The headline strongly implies there were e-scooters back then; there weren’t. Second, London’s pavements weren’t cluttered with autopeds; or if they were, there’s no evidence offered. Third, why expand the image with AI? The original is fine.

I do appreciate the dive back into history, but ianvisits.co.uk (which I usually like) can do much better.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #38

First off, the price: £36 was much more than "£1,600 in today’s money". A railway clerk made £2 12 0 in a week in 1917, (less than £10/month if I did the shillings and all that properly), which makes the scooter price the equivalent of 3.5 months, which is £7,000 at the lowest end of today's London North Eastern Railway salary range. The fact that the picture has Lady something in it, suggests it was more of an upper…

Agreed - though street is AI generated from a close up image but it’s unknowns better it was actually empty or not :(
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