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Re: Firefox debuts new developer toolbar

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Post by cpeterso »

codemac wrote: post #18

If you have a HiDPI display (ips or retina mac), Jonathon Kew's patchset to add this feature to Firefox has landed in the Aurora branch. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/lates... There are 18a2 builds in there, I'm using it now! However, I haven't seen it mentioned on the main aurora release page, so proceed with caution.

Firefox's lack of HiDPI support was killing my eyes, but I've been using Nightly builds and they look great. The only problem I see is that Flash plugins get confused about screen sizes (so YouTube has tiny control buttons).

Re: Firefox debuts new developer toolbar

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Post by azakai »

ch0wn wrote: post #29
cicloid wrote: post #11

Lately Firefox started looking more atractive again. Mostly because of Chrome's feature creep. But probably I'm just overthinking it.

> Mostly because of Chrome's feature creep. I think I'm actually quite sensitive to that, but haven't felt about Chrome that way yet. Could you explain what features you mean in particular?

Some things Chrome includes that other browsers do not: Pepper, Native Client, Chrome Web Store, WebSQL (Safari might have that one too), a native PDF viewer, SwiftShader, etc.

(People of course disagree on which of those are bad and which are good.)

Re: Firefox debuts new developer toolbar

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Post by cpeterso »

danneu wrote: post #20

The shortcut to bring it up (fn+shift+f2) is pretty unwieldy on the Mac keyboard. Anyone have any idea on how to change the shortcut? No luck in about:config.

You can remap individual applications' keyboard shortcuts in System Preferences > Keyboard settings. For this case, the keyboard shortcut should remap the menu item "Developer Toolbar". I like to remap CMD+Q to something harmless like "Hide Others" to avoid accidentally quitting apps. :)

Re: Firefox debuts new developer toolbar

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Post by cicloid »

azakai wrote: post #32
ch0wn wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Mostly because of Chrome's feature creep. I think I'm actually quite sensitive to that, but haven't felt about Chrome that way yet. Could you explain what features you mean in particular?

Some things Chrome includes that other browsers do not: Pepper, Native Client, Chrome Web Store, WebSQL (Safari might have that one too), a native PDF viewer, SwiftShader, etc. (People of course disagree on which of those are bad and which are good.)

Flash

Re: Firefox debuts new developer toolbar

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Post by codemac »

cpeterso wrote: post #31
codemac wrote: post #18

If you have a HiDPI display (ips or retina mac), Jonathon Kew's patchset to add this feature to Firefox has landed in the Aurora branch. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/lates... There are 18a2 builds in there, I'm using it now! However, I haven't seen it mentioned on the main aurora release page, so proceed with caution.

Firefox's lack of HiDPI support was killing my eyes, but I've been using Nightly builds and they look great. The only problem I see is that Flash plugins get confused about screen sizes (so YouTube has tiny control buttons).

The plugin support hasn't bothered me yet, and it's almost surprising.

The amount of flash I use on a daily basis is so incredibly minimal these days. I've started using the built in plugin blocking with firefox. The only time I really turn it on is for Netflix and the occasional video that isn't part of the HTML5 beta on youtube is about it.

( not that any of this is an excuse to not fix the bug :P )

Re: Firefox debuts new developer toolbar

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Post by cicloid »

ch0wn wrote: post #29
cicloid wrote: post #11

Lately Firefox started looking more atractive again. Mostly because of Chrome's feature creep. But probably I'm just overthinking it.

> Mostly because of Chrome's feature creep. I think I'm actually quite sensitive to that, but haven't felt about Chrome that way yet. Could you explain what features you mean in particular?

Besides the reply to your comment. Anecdotally I could tell you that some months ago, Chrome felt much faster at loading.

And I'm talking about barebones Chrome. Sometimes using extensions or activating/deactivating some flags can hinder/improve the performance.

The only thing that keeps me here, is the extensions not available on Safari (my other favorite webkit browser).

But overall it seems more slow on launch (even on clean install).

Re: Firefox debuts new developer toolbar

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Post by antidoh »

danneu wrote: post #20

The shortcut to bring it up (fn+shift+f2) is pretty unwieldy on the Mac keyboard. Anyone have any idea on how to change the shortcut? No luck in about:config.

You can also get at the menubar through the keyboard:

alt-T W v

which looks a little unwieldy, except you don't have to move from the home keys, and I find it much easier to type than

hands up, look for fn, left middle to shift and left index to fn, right middle float up and over to f2

You can muscle memory a short menubar keyboard sequence pretty quickly if you use it enough.

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