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Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Post by Tiberium »

BeetleB wrote: post #28
Tiberium wrote: post #15

Yet again Flash receives a notable price hike: from $0.3/$2.5 for 2.5 Flash to $0.5/$3 (+66.7% input, +20% output) for 3 Flash. Also, as a reminder, 2 Flash used to be $0.1/$0.4.

Yes, but this Flash is a lot more powerful - beating Gemini 3 Pro on some benchmarks (and pretty close on others). I don't view this as a "new Flash" but as "a much cheaper Gemini 3 Pro/GPT-5.2"

I would be less salty if they gave us 3 Flash Lite at same price as 2.5 Flash or cheaper with better capability, but they still focus on the pricier models :(

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Post by primaprashant »

Pricing is $0.5 / $3 per million input / output tokens. 2.5 Flash was $0.3 / $2.5. That's 66% increase in input tokens and 20% increase in output token pricing.

For comparison, from 2.5 Pro ($1.25 / $10) to 3 Pro ($2 / $12), there was 60% increase in input tokens and 20% increase in output tokens pricing.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Post by nprateem »

simonsarris wrote: post #10

Even before this release the tools (for me: Claude Code and Gemini for other stuff) reached a "good enough" plateau that means any other company is going to have a hard time making me (I think soon most users) want to switch. Unless a new release from a different company has a real paradigm shift, they're simply sufficient. This was not true in 2023/2024 IMO. With this release the "good enough" and "cheap enough" int…

But for me the previous models were routinely wrong time wasters that overall added no speed increase taking the lottery of whether they'd be correct into account.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Post by zzleeper »

Tiberium wrote: post #31
BeetleB wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but this Flash is a lot more powerful - beating Gemini 3 Pro on some benchmarks (and pretty close on others). I don't view this as a "new Flash" but as "a much cheaper Gemini 3 Pro/GPT-5.2"

I would be less salty if they gave us 3 Flash Lite at same price as 2.5 Flash or cheaper with better capability, but they still focus on the pricier models :(

Same! I want to do some data stuff from documents and 2.0 pricing was amazing, but the constant increases go the wrong way for this task :/

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Post by iamgopal »

_lvbh wrote: post #23

Thinking along the line of speed, I wonder if a model that can reason and use tools at 60fps would be able to control a robot with raw instructions and perform skilled physical work currently limited by the text-only output of LLMs. Also helps that the Gemini series is really good at multimodal processing with images and audio. Maybe they can also encode sensory inputs in a similar way. Pipe dream right now, but 50 y…

Much sooner, hardware, power, software, even AI model design, inference hardware, cache, everything being improved , it's exponential.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Post by echelon »

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