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Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I'm aware no 777-200 mounted engine has ever exploded

From the article: https://liveandletsfly.com/united-airlines-777-200-engine-fa...

You know, this is why I hate it when techies assume they know things because they read something from a blog.

The engine did not explode. It suffered an engine failure when the fan blades failed and separated but was a contained failure.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

#32
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?) Is it considered normal in Europe to watch pornography on public transit in public so children can see it? >Lufthansa longhaul flight My experience is different. Old planes, and Lufthansa cabin crew are cold and service was poor and inattentive.

Its normal in Europe to not watch any kind of pornography in public. Idk why you would do that.

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Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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To a European like me, United was such a weird airline to fly. There were actual commercials played before the safety video, the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?), and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight. At least the WiFi was reasonably cheap. Over here, that stuff would never fly (no pun…

What has become much more degraded in Europe than America is the domestic flights. Try flying Lufthansa (or one of their half dozen subsidiaries created almost entirely to give worse service) anywhere inside of europe. Everything is a money grab and the service and boarding are terrible. United maintains a relatively consistent experience between domestic and international, minus the free alcohol.

> United maintains a relatively consistent experience between domestic and international, minus the free alcohol.

A consistent extremely mediocre experience I guess. I've flown Lufthansa, Air France, Air Canada and United with a toddler and I'd get out of my way to avoid United in the future, never seen staff everywhere in that airline that was more unpleasant and unhelpful, especially with young children, as much as when flying United.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

#34
post #21

To a European like me, United was such a weird airline to fly. There were actual commercials played before the safety video, the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?), and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight. At least the WiFi was reasonably cheap. Over here, that stuff would never fly (no pun…

Isn't swiss air playing commercials for some watch brand constantly?

Swissair used to let you gamble, until the system started a fire, which caused a crash that killed everyone onboard.

https://www.theautopian.com/swissair-used-to-let-you-gamble-...

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

#35
post #25

To a European like me, United was such a weird airline to fly. There were actual commercials played before the safety video, the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?), and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight. At least the WiFi was reasonably cheap. Over here, that stuff would never fly (no pun…

> and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight The largest of the airlines in America make more profit from this than the airline aspect itself. There is far more that could be said on this but, ironically, I am on a flight and about to land.

Europe will financialize everything just slower and with more regulation. Branded credit cards are coming. See Brussels Airlines and Mastercard

A well optimized domestic USA airline makes money from credit cards, points, trip insurance, upsells, and segments the consumer into a dozen bins based on what they’re willing to spend for a couple more inches of leg room.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

#36
How the hell is this AI slop getting upvoted? The early 777s are being retired because they're old. Engine failures are a thing that happens on all planes. You aren't going to retire planes because of one unless it reveals a greater issue, which this incident did not.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

#37

To a European like me, United was such a weird airline to fly. There were actual commercials played before the safety video, the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?), and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight. At least the WiFi was reasonably cheap. Over here, that stuff would never fly (no pun…

What has become much more degraded in Europe than America is the domestic flights. Try flying Lufthansa (or one of their half dozen subsidiaries created almost entirely to give worse service) anywhere inside of europe. Everything is a money grab and the service and boarding are terrible. United maintains a relatively consistent experience between domestic and international, minus the free alcohol.

I love how everyone is dunking on airlines (it's easy - I do too!), yet airlines are one of the least profitable business sectors to be in.

It's like dunking on QSR, but worse. These things are practically on welfare.

Everything is fungible, high risk, extremely expensive, extremely regulated. The margins are almost nil. They all fly the same planes. You can compete on "experience", and that's basically it.

Their dingy little ads, baggage fees, and wifi upsells are the the best they can muster. That's the entire farm, and they're scraping by as best they can. This is every single airline.

What a awful, utterly unrewarding business to be in.

We in tech are unbelievably privileged.

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

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To a European like me, United was such a weird airline to fly. There were actual commercials played before the safety video, the cabin crew warned passengers to make sure children cannot see the adult content they're watching (can you get more American than that?), and their credit card was offered multiple times during the flight. At least the WiFi was reasonably cheap. Over here, that stuff would never fly (no pun…

What has become much more degraded in Europe than America is the domestic flights. Try flying Lufthansa (or one of their half dozen subsidiaries created almost entirely to give worse service) anywhere inside of europe. Everything is a money grab and the service and boarding are terrible. United maintains a relatively consistent experience between domestic and international, minus the free alcohol.

> Try flying Lufthansa (or one of their half dozen subsidiaries created almost entirely to give worse service) anywhere inside of europe. Everything is a money grab and the service and boarding are terrible.

FWIW, I just took such a flight and didn't notice anything that compares unfavorably to a domestic U.S. airline. (To be clear, it certainly wasn't better either.) Is there anything specific you can point to?

Re: United 777-200 fleet faces an uncertain future after Dulles engine failure

#39

Clickbait. The B777 is probably the safest, most meticulously engineered commercial wide-body aircraft ever built. They're also getting old, and airlines retire old aircraft.

Like you, I took an impression from the headline that safety was at issue — that's why I clicked on the article, only to find out that it was about economics instead. I don't know if it was deliberate clickbait, but that was the effect.
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