So they gutted and destroyed USDS in order to... Create it again?
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US Tech Force
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#32How is this different from 18F (a group within GSA which Elon killed), US Digital Service (which Elon kind of converted to DOGE) or Defense Digital Service (DDS)? Is the only difference that the current government can claim they started this (completely ignoring they dismantled the previous programs)?
I'm assuming that unlike 18F or USDS, you'll likely be asked to do ethically-compromising things?
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#33> Participants will work on high-impact technology initiatives including AI implementation, application development, data modernization, and digital service delivery across federal agencies. > The initial roster of private sector partners includes Adobe, Amazon Web Services, AMD, Anduril, Apple, Box, C3.ai, Coinbase, Databricks, Dell Technologies, Docusign, Google Public Sector, IBM, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia, OpenAI,…
Right… because those definitely don’t already assist three-letter agencies and the presence of the largest tech companies on the planet on your CV will definitely somehow become a net negative because uh, orange man bad? I assume that’s what the 3 year window is about?
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#34Figures this comes from the National Design Studio ( https://ndstudio.gov/ ) which ironically also ignores the government's own advice on web standards and correct use of identifying headers. One can assume the US Tech Force will perceive itself as also unfettered by those silly rules and good practices.
Click on America by design initiative
"What's the biggest brand in the world? If you said Trump, you're not wrong. But what's the foundation of that brand? One that's more globally recognized than practically anything else.
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This is President Trump going bigger than President Nixon"
Jesus christ, man
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#35> Participants will work on high-impact technology initiatives including AI implementation, application development, data modernization, and digital service delivery across federal agencies. > The initial roster of private sector partners includes Adobe, Amazon Web Services, AMD, Anduril, Apple, Box, C3.ai, Coinbase, Databricks, Dell Technologies, Docusign, Google Public Sector, IBM, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia, OpenAI,…
Bullshit. There is no company in the US that refuses to hire defense contractor employees, ex military or anyone who has worked in defense earlier.
Edit: this seems like the usds with private sector participation. I know “doge” is basically just usds.
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#36What an AI slopfest of a website. Also: the " United States DOGE Service "? Really?
That's its official name. Obama had created the US Digital Service (USDS) back in 2014- it was essentially a formalization of the "Tiger Team" that had fixed Healthcare.gov the year before. The idea was that you would take mid-career to senior SDE's, PM's, UX people, DevOps, etc. from industry, and bring them into the government for a 2-3 year period, where they would jump into a specific government IT thing and fix it up, revamp and improve, and then after a few years leave the USDS and go back to industry. It was part of the Executive Office of the President, though it was funded by Congress through 2024 (and then via CR like the rest of the government until the shutdown).
It wasn't a large group, and they weren't really responsible for much so they never got much attention. They would just try and fix a few specific pain points at a time. I only knew about it because one of the best PM's I ever worked for did a stint exactly like it was supposed to work- she joined the USDS, worked for the American people for a few years, then left and went back to industry.
And then on January 21st, 2025, his first full day in office, Trump renamed the USDS to the United States DOGE Service, because USDS had money to pay salaries and since it was part of the EotP he could easily hire new people without civil service restrictions. So he could bring in new people (Big Balls etc.) easily enough. By February, essentially everyone who had been in the USDS on the last day of Biden's term were either laid off or resigned. And since then the USDS has been entirely DOGEified.
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#37> Are there any other benefits? > Additional benefits include professional development opportunities, networking with government and industry leaders, and a pathway to continued public service or private sector careers. Given the lack of mention of any benefits prior to this, it sure sounds like "you'll get lots of exposure!" edit: not sure if they just added it, or if I just missed it, but there is an FAQ entry on c…
Yeah, given the primary benefit of government jobs like this is usually the stability, pension etc when you’re offering absolutely none of that you really need to look down the back of the couch for some benefits.
Is it stability when funding bills dont pass?
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#38How is this different from 18F (a group within GSA which Elon killed), US Digital Service (which Elon kind of converted to DOGE) or Defense Digital Service (DDS)? Is the only difference that the current government can claim they started this (completely ignoring they dismantled the previous programs)?
Fortunately that's addressed in the extremely fine FAQ: > How is Tech Force related to other government technology programs, including ones at GSA or the United States DOGE Service? > While Tech Force will coordinate across all of government, it is distinct from other technology initiatives within government, including the United States DOGE Service and programs managed by GSA. These programs differ in their mandates…
I was prepared to fume here until I checked your comment history. I guess it is true that sarcasm occasionally fails to get across the cable.
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#39The flash of unstyled text when it goes from serif Times New Roman to grotesk FF Neue Montreal is so jarring.
Elite of the elite needs no sans-serif fallback font.
Just when I thought this was on brand to the new "anti-woke" font style guide.
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#40> Are there any other benefits? > Additional benefits include professional development opportunities, networking with government and industry leaders, and a pathway to continued public service or private sector careers. Given the lack of mention of any benefits prior to this, it sure sounds like "you'll get lots of exposure!" edit: not sure if they just added it, or if I just missed it, but there is an FAQ entry on c…
Yeah, given the primary benefit of government jobs like this is usually the stability, pension etc when you’re offering absolutely none of that you really need to look down the back of the couch for some benefits.
For me as someone that would potentially be interested in and qualified for one of these roles, the DOGE actions earlier this year and ongoing firing of nonpartisan & non-appointed that don't tow the current ruling party line ruined the stability benefit. I think it also casts doubt on the pension aspect, but I know less about what's required to get pension in US fed positions.