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2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by kaizenb »

quirino wrote: post #27
kaizenb wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I build a web app years ago with Spotify SDK to display top artists, songs, recents, also with a Discovery section that generates new music based on your history. You can create playlists from all sections. free @ https://echoesapp.io

Tried it out now, pretty nice. Note that apps built from the SDK don't have access to the full history, only up to some cutoff. I tried a couple over the years and wrongly concluded Spotify deleted your history after some time. The data download does contain everything, which was a very pleasant surprise. I didn't think I'd ever see the data from the couple years gap in my last.fm.

Just requested my data. They have noted "Preparation time 30 days" :/ What takes so long?

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by moolcool »

twistslider wrote: post #17

Last.fm is still used quite a bit, mainly as a listening history tracker rather than a radio or recommendation engine. Spotify is still the only big streaming service with native platform-level scrobbling. For everything else it's a lot more DIY, usually with third party tools at the device level. A big reason it’s still relevant is the ecosystem around it. The API hasn't really changed in 15 years, which makes it ea…

Missing last.fm support is the only thing keeping me from switching from Spotify to Apple Music

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by sthuck »

The best ”algorithm” for discovering new music was digging through profiles on last.fm back when the social functions of the site were still active. Sure, it was a lot of manual work, but the results were amazing. It wasn't completely blind, I found that people I had high similarity with, it was more likely I'll like what they like, even across different genres. Sometimes people were nice and took the effort to recommend based on my profile. I got introduced to varied music, different genres and even a bit from different countries.

The worst was Pandora, which did recommendations based on breakdown of musical instruments and elements in the song. It did what it aimed to do pretty well, only it was a bad idea. It gave you a lot of uninspiring music that sounded like a bland copy of something you actually liked.

Spotify's recommendations are not super awful, but definitely feel closer to Pandora's style. I wonder why is the result like that even though I'm sure they train their model based on listening history.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by wyre »

moolcool wrote: post #34
twistslider wrote: post #17

Last.fm is still used quite a bit, mainly as a listening history tracker rather than a radio or recommendation engine. Spotify is still the only big streaming service with native platform-level scrobbling. For everything else it's a lot more DIY, usually with third party tools at the device level. A big reason it’s still relevant is the ecosystem around it. The API hasn't really changed in 15 years, which makes it ea…

Missing last.fm support is the only thing keeping me from switching from Spotify to Apple Music

There are 3rd-party apps that have near seamless Apple Music integration, at least on MacOS (Scrobbles for Last.fm) and iPhone (Marvis).

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by PlunderBunny »

tantalor wrote: post #36

I always thought Apple missed a huge opportunity to build a social network on top of iTunes. See what your friends are listening to, develop communities around shared musical interests, get better recommendations. Sort of like YouTube now.

iTunes Ping: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes_Ping
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