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Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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Post by applebladee »

itomato wrote: post #13
Papazsazsa wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a superficial arrogant lmgtfy'er, disinterested in true discovery. (Heap your downvotes on me HN, I've seen what makes you cheer!) MY BOURDAIN LI.ST: 1) Masculinity without cringe: Tough, profane, credentialed through actual kitchen labor (not culinary school pedigree), but also emotionally literate, openly vulnerable, willing to cry on camera. He modeled a…

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So did Robin Williams and countless others.

Practically everyone complains 24/7 about something or other, in a roundabout way you are doing it now..

Overall I fail to see your point.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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Post by RajT88 »

Papazsazsa wrote: post #12
treesknees wrote: post #7

At the risk of being downvoted… for the uninitiated among us, what’s interesting about these or the person? I understand he was a chef and had several TV shows. Is it just celebrity fascination?

He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a superficial arrogant lmgtfy'er, disinterested in true discovery. (Heap your downvotes on me HN, I've seen what makes you cheer!) MY BOURDAIN LI.ST: 1) Masculinity without cringe: Tough, profane, credentialed through actual kitchen labor (not culinary school pedigree), but also emotionally literate, openly vulnerable, willing to cry on camera. He modeled a…

> 6) Tragic: Suicide landed hard because many recognized something in him of themselves in him.

I would like to put it out there that his depression or whatever mental illness he had was on full display the whole time, and this probably resonated with people as well.

A couple years back I started re-watching all of his shows, start to finish, after watching Roadrunner. Especially the early seasons, there was rarely an episode he didn't joke about dying, being killed, or killing himself. (In the film, there was a quote from Tony about how an acquaintance observed they'd never met someone who wanted to die so much)

I think a lot of people picked up on that, and it made the whole the whole thing work. The grit, the machismo, the empathy for the plight of your fellow man. A lot of people who worked with him said he was an asshole, too. This is also not surprising that he would be at times when the cameras were off.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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Post by asveikau »

treesknees wrote: post #7

At the risk of being downvoted… for the uninitiated among us, what’s interesting about these or the person? I understand he was a chef and had several TV shows. Is it just celebrity fascination?

Hard to summarize. He created the impression of being authentic. He had an unpretentious New York accent. He was happy in and advocated for unpretentious areas, which goes against some of the stereotypes of overly social media friendly foodie stuff. He encouraged his audience to travel and understand other people.

His struggles and imperfections also evoked sympathy. He spoke about how he used to have a drug problem. His death by suicide was sad. He certainly would have had lots of interesting things to say in the last 9 years, had he been around.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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Post by basisword »

itomato wrote: post #13
Papazsazsa wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a superficial arrogant lmgtfy'er, disinterested in true discovery. (Heap your downvotes on me HN, I've seen what makes you cheer!) MY BOURDAIN LI.ST: 1) Masculinity without cringe: Tough, profane, credentialed through actual kitchen labor (not culinary school pedigree), but also emotionally literate, openly vulnerable, willing to cry on camera. He modeled a…

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I hope you never have to understand the difficulty and complexity of the so called "easy way out".

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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Post by [deleted] »

Aurornis wrote: post #21
Papazsazsa wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a superficial arrogant lmgtfy'er, disinterested in true discovery. (Heap your downvotes on me HN, I've seen what makes you cheer!) MY BOURDAIN LI.ST: 1) Masculinity without cringe: Tough, profane, credentialed through actual kitchen labor (not culinary school pedigree), but also emotionally literate, openly vulnerable, willing to cry on camera. He modeled a…

> He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a I enjoyed Bourdain, but this level of hero worship is really excessive. Not to mention antithetical to much of what Bourdain stood for. He was enjoyable to read and watch, but claiming he "made it acceptable" for men to care about food, travel or culture is weird. He was an entertainer. An interesting guy. A great storyteller who lived an interesting li…

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Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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Post by basisword »

treesknees wrote: post #7

At the risk of being downvoted… for the uninitiated among us, what’s interesting about these or the person? I understand he was a chef and had several TV shows. Is it just celebrity fascination?

He wrote honestly about a profession he worked at all levels. His travel/food programmes sampled the fanciest of foods as well as the greasy spoons, local cuisines, and all without arrogance or false humility. He was very relatable for many people.

I would recommend reading Kitchen Confidential. Alternatively watch any of his travel shows although I think understanding the man through the book first makes it easier to appreciate the shows.

Regarding this specific find I don't see anything particularly special but for many it's one final glimpse into the life of someone they admire.

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