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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by JimDabell »

mkmk3 wrote: post #20
badsectoracula wrote: post #16

> Devstral 2 ships under a modified MIT license, while Devstral Small 2 uses Apache 2.0. Both are open-source and permissively licensed to accelerate distributed intelligence. Uh, the "Modified MIT license" here[0] for Devstral 2 doesn't look particularly permissively licensed (or open-source): > 2. You are not authorized to exercise any rights under this license if the global consolidated monthly revenue of your com…

Earnestly, what's the concern here? People complain about open source being mostly beneficial to megacorps, if that's the main change (idk I haven't looked too closely) then that's pretty good, no?

They are claiming something is open-source when it isn’t. Regardless of whether you think the deviation from open-source is a good thing or not, you should still be in favour of honesty.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by programLyrique »

poszlem wrote: post #12
tucnak wrote: post #2

I'm so glad Mistral never sold out. We're really lucky to have them in the EU at the time when we're so focused on mil-tech etc.

They’ll switch to military tech the second it becomes necessary, don’t kid yourself. I’m just glad we have a European alternative for the day the US decides to turn its back on us. This tech is simply too critical to pretend the military won’t use it. That’s clearer now than ever, especially after the (so far flop-ish) launch of the U.S. military’s own genAI platform.

They have already:

- https://helsing.ai/newsroom/helsing-and-mistral-announce-str... - https://sifted.eu/articles/mistral-helsing-defence-ai-action... - Luxembourg army chose Mistral: https://www.forcesoperations.com/la-pepite-francaise-mistral... - French army: https://www.defense.gouv.fr/actualites/ia-defense-sebastien-...

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by simonw » 

  llm install llm-mistral
  llm mistral refresh
  llm -m mistral/devstral-2512 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle"
https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D...

Pretty good for a 123B model!

(That said I'm not 100% certain I guessed the correct model ID, I asked Mistral here: https://x.com/simonw/status/1998435424847675429)

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#34

Post by whimsicalism »

Arcuru wrote: post #21
badsectoracula wrote: post #16

> Devstral 2 ships under a modified MIT license, while Devstral Small 2 uses Apache 2.0. Both are open-source and permissively licensed to accelerate distributed intelligence. Uh, the "Modified MIT license" here[0] for Devstral 2 doesn't look particularly permissively licensed (or open-source): > 2. You are not authorized to exercise any rights under this license if the global consolidated monthly revenue of your com…

Personally I really like the normalization of these "Permissively" licensed models that only restrict companies with massive revenues from using them for free. If you want to use something, and your company makes $240,000,000 in annual revenue, you should probably pay for it.

That's fine, but I don't think you should call it open source or call it MIT or even 'modified MIT.' Call it Mistral license or something along those lines

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by cpursley »

simonw wrote: post #33

llm install llm-mistral llm mistral refresh llm -m mistral/devstral-2512 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D... Pretty good for a 123B model! (That said I'm not 100% certain I guessed the correct model ID, I asked Mistral here: https://x.com/simonw/status/1998435424847675429 )

Skipped the bicycle entirely and upgraded to a sweet motorcycle :)

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by Macha »

pzmarzly wrote: post #15

10x cheaper price per token than Claude, am I reading it right? As long as it doesn't mean 10x worse performance, that's a good selling point.

Something like GPT 5-mini is a lot cheaper than even Haiku but when I tried it in my experience it was so bad it was a waste of time. But it’s probably still more than 1/10 the performance of Haiku probably?

In work, where my employer pays for it, Haiku tends to be the workhorse with Sonnet or Opus when I see it flailing. On my own budget I’m a lot more cost conscious, so Haiku actually ends up being “the fancy model” and minimax m2 the “dumb model”.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#37

Post by squigz »

badsectoracula wrote: post #16

> Devstral 2 ships under a modified MIT license, while Devstral Small 2 uses Apache 2.0. Both are open-source and permissively licensed to accelerate distributed intelligence. Uh, the "Modified MIT license" here[0] for Devstral 2 doesn't look particularly permissively licensed (or open-source): > 2. You are not authorized to exercise any rights under this license if the global consolidated monthly revenue of your com…

Is such a term even enforceable? How would it be? How could Mistral know how much a company makes if that information isn't public?

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by andai »

embedding-shape wrote: post #4

Look interesting, eager to play around with it! Devstral was a neat model when it released and one of the better ones to run locally for agentic coding. Nowadays I mostly use GPT-OSS-120b for this, so gonna be interesting to see if Devstral 2 can replace it. I'm a bit saddened by the name of the CLI tool, which to me implies the intended usage. "Vibe-coding" is a fun exercise to realize where models go wrong, but for…

I created a very unprofessional tool, which apparently does what you want!

While True:

0. Context injected automatically. (My repos are small.)

1. I describe a change.

2. LLM proposes a code edit. (Can edit multiple files simultaneously. Only one LLM call required :)

3. I accept/reject the edit.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by aorth »

cpursley wrote: post #35
simonw wrote: post #33

llm install llm-mistral llm mistral refresh llm -m mistral/devstral-2512 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D... Pretty good for a 123B model! (That said I'm not 100% certain I guessed the correct model ID, I asked Mistral here: https://x.com/simonw/status/1998435424847675429 )

Skipped the bicycle entirely and upgraded to a sweet motorcycle :)

Looks like a Cybertruck actually!

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by andai »

isodev wrote: post #29
pluralmonad wrote: post #3

I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks "Vibe CLI" sounds like an unserious tool. I use Claude Code a lot and little of it is what I would consider Vibe Coding.

If you’re letting Claude write code you’re vibe coding

So people have different definitions of the word, but originally Vibe Coding meant "don't even look at the code".

If you're actually making sure it's legit, it's not vibe coding anymore. It's just... Backseat Coding? ;)

There's a level below that I call Power Coding (like power armor) where you're using a very fast model interactively to make many very small edits. So you're still doing the conceptual work of programming, but outsourcing the plumbing (LLM handles details of syntax and stdlib).

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