I don't really want an e-ink "monitor" as that does not really play into the advantages of an e-ink display. By the time the e-ink display is uprated enough to act as a monitor It feels like a lot of the advantages of e-ink are lost and the display server does not really downrate enough to utilize e-ink's strength. But an e-ink "terminal" would be nice, not an actual tty but something more like a tablet form factor t…
Using e-ink tablet as monitor for Linux
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#33What's the cheapest eInk display one can get, like phone sized or tablet sized? I mean just for experimentation.
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#34I wonder if xpra can be used for this, seems to work really nice on thin clients
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#35Dasung 253 is a 25.3 inch eink display. https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-25-3-e-ink-monitor-p... I bought it two years ago for over $1800, and I have to say, it was worth every single dollar. I can read on it, work on it, (kind of) watch youtube videos on it, play (some) RTS game on it. And mine only had 33hz refresh rate, not the latest 60hz.
Does it support linux based systems?
When I tried (and returned) one of their monitors, it was absolutely horrific with ghosting. This was perhaps 5 years ago.
There was no manual, and it had a closed source application to time or force refresh. Of course, being closed source it wouldn't work on a Pi (arm64), nor did I feel comfortable about unknown code, or it working in a few years on a newer version of Linux.
It was all exceptionally poorly done. Amazon says it was a Dasung E-Ink Paperlike 3 HD Front-Light and Touch 13.3" Monitor.
If the app had been OSS, or it had an open API via the cable, I could have scripted an auto-refresh upon scrolling in vi or some such. Or just hacked into something seeing change scope under X. Point is, I could have made it work for me.
The default modes were terrible.
I hope things are better, but no way will I install some weird closed source client.
I have a fairly new tablet, and it handles refresh incredibly well, but I'm sure that's with strong integration into the display stack. Which is fine, of course, but that doesn't help me with coding.
EDIT: one of the things which makes some of these e-ink tablets incredible for refresh, is partial, very well done sectional refresh. So if a small part of the screen changes, BAM!, it's refreshed instantly for ghosting.
Again, I suspect this is tied into the display stack. The monitors I've seen don't seem anywhere as good. I'd love to to be wrong on newer models.
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#36I love when a blog post starts with demonstration of end result.
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#37Dasung 253 is a 25.3 inch eink display. https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-25-3-e-ink-monitor-p... I bought it two years ago for over $1800, and I have to say, it was worth every single dollar. I can read on it, work on it, (kind of) watch youtube videos on it, play (some) RTS game on it. And mine only had 33hz refresh rate, not the latest 60hz.
the version you linked is a monochrome one, right? Don't you find it difficult to read and work on it without color?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd wager that the whole modus operandi for desktop environments is not made with e-ink in mind. E-ink fits in a situation where only a few updates are ever required, and completely breaks down for anything requiring higher framerates. The market might just not be big enough to warrant creating a product.
https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-paperlike-103-the-wo... This is that product. A 60 Hz eink monitor, for $340.
It's specifically says no Linux support. It seems to me that excludes a large portion of tinkerers and those willing to accept the downsides of bleeding edge technologies, which is probably also their target market. Such as me.
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#39What's the cheapest eInk display one can get, like phone sized or tablet sized? I mean just for experimentation.
I'd look for an Inkplate on ebay. I got the 10 inch one for about £60 which is very good.
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#40I've tried this setup (and a different setup using a capture card) with a BOOX Note Max but the input latency is just too high to be usable, even for simple cli work. Are the dedicated eink monitors (like Dasung) better in this regard?
I've been using this solution for about 4 days now.
It's not meant to be used as your main monitor.
I use it only when I want to read something I or someone else has written.
I think it's also good for simple writing too.
But if I try to use it as my main monitor, browsing the web, writing code, etc. it will become a real headache because of the latency.
One huge plus is that it isn't *just a monitor*. because of the VNC connection, I just pick up my tablet and roam around the office while reading something, even making tiny edits, It can be also used as a great drawpad. I use it to explain things to my coworkers, since drawing freehand diagrams, shapes and text isn't very easy with a mouse.