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Tesla Optimus robot takes a suspicious tumble in new demo

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Re: Tesla Optimus robot takes a suspicious tumble in new demo

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Post by rsynnott »

ojo-rojo wrote: post #24

I notice when its left hand came down there was a squirt of water from probably crushing water bottle. That makes me wonder how much force these robots can exert, and if they can accidentally hurt people.

> That makes me wonder how much force these robots can exert, and if they can accidentally hurt people.

Definitely. This thing weighs 60kg. You don't want it to fall on you.

(This is actually one of a number of things that makes me suspect that this isn't a real product or even intended to be a real product. It's too heavy and hard; it would simply not be safe for humans to be around. There are a couple of companies who seem to be gearing up to actually have some sort of limited public release of humanoid robots (generally on a "actually remote operated when doing stuff" basis); they're generally a good bit lighter and with soft coverings (though they still have disclaimers not to let them near kids).)

Re: Tesla Optimus robot takes a suspicious tumble in new demo

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Post by parineum »

Gigachad wrote: post #28
parineum wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I meant SEC. Just search for "Musk SEC". He's been fined and sued already for similar statements. It's pretty illegal to lie about the capabilities of the products of a publicly held company. Just look at Nikola.

He lies again and again. Occasionally gets a slap or a small fine. And then keeps doing it.

What has he lied about? With the caveat that a prediction of the future being incorrect and an estimation of a timeline being wrong is not a lie.

An example of a lie would be the topic at hand, misrepresenting current capabilities of an existing product.

Mars or self driving cars by Year X isn't a lie.

Re: Tesla Optimus robot takes a suspicious tumble in new demo

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Post by Gigachad »

parineum wrote: post #32
Gigachad wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He lies again and again. Occasionally gets a slap or a small fine. And then keeps doing it.

What has he lied about? With the caveat that a prediction of the future being incorrect and an estimation of a timeline being wrong is not a lie. An example of a lie would be the topic at hand, misrepresenting current capabilities of an existing product. Mars or self driving cars by Year X isn't a lie.

One instance https://www.forbes.com/sites/willskipworth/2023/12/07/elon-m...

Though some of his future predictions are obviously things he knows will not possibly happen and are as close to a lie as you can get while still being plausibly deniable.

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Post by lesuorac »

parineum wrote: post #32
Gigachad wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He lies again and again. Occasionally gets a slap or a small fine. And then keeps doing it.

What has he lied about? With the caveat that a prediction of the future being incorrect and an estimation of a timeline being wrong is not a lie. An example of a lie would be the topic at hand, misrepresenting current capabilities of an existing product. Mars or self driving cars by Year X isn't a lie.

A lot, the easiest example was the autopilot video that started off with "The car is driving itself, the driver is there for regulatory reasons". The video was created by stitched together different sessions as in some of the sessions the car drove itself off the road into solid objects.

Or about the thai diver being a pedophile.

People just give Elon too many benefits of the doubt. Saying Mars/Self driving cars is going to be next year for over a decade is just a lie after the first couple of times.

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Post by Zigurd »

hintklb wrote: post #8
energy123 wrote: post #5

These will be hazardous to children.

Ah yes, Think of the children! [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

Think of everyone. Unless your roboots are weak as a kitten, they are a danger to humans if allowed to be close. Robots that are sold for real money to do real work don't walk around and are strong enough to crush a human like a bug. Or if they're built for dexterity, their hands aren't human-like. Zero surgical robots have human-like hands, and for very good reasons.

Can all the extremely smart people developing humanoid robots be wrong? Wrong question: can all of the investors in those companies be wrong? Hell to the yes.

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