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Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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That's like saying Ford should by Yugo. Why? They are small and insignificant and might not be around very long as they are making things people don't like.

HBO is making things people don't like?

Making money is the only important measure of quality. Because hes a billionaire, Mr. Beast is our generations best filmmaker

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HBO is destination television - it's the taste that Netflix lacks and so desperately needs. WB and HBO together have the franchises that Netflix has been trying to build. DC, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings (film + game rights - tv rights), West World, The Matrix, Mad Max, King Kong, all of Cartoon Network and Adult Swim. What does Paramount or Hulu have? It's a lot of fluff on the same or even lower…

Paramount/NBC/Peacock/Fox/ESPN have live sports, which are the only thing left worth paying for, everything else can be skipped or pirated.

ESPN comes with your Disney+ which also gives you Hulu

Peacock says they have sports, but then doesn't actually show all of the matches and instead tries to prop up USA and Telemundo numbers. Many times I have to watch a match in a language I'm not fluent even though I'm paying for Peacock specifically as they have the rights. Can't watch USA as I cut the cord years ago, so I'm left with hoping I can find the right spot for my OTA antenna to be able to tune in.

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All this deal making drama, thats been going in media for a while now hides the fact that Content Supply has vastly overshot Demand to levels that make no sense in any other industry. Cost of tools/production/distribution have all massively dropped over the last 2 decades. Needs a more sustainable story or oscillations and chaos are going to keep increasing.

> Content Supply has vastly overshot Demand Content has never overshot demand. I would drown myself in content if it were good and abundant. It's not. It's lackluster and middling. Content is scarce because it is expensive to produce. The wrong people get put in charge of projects (or tastes/reception is hard to gauge, and experiences hard to engineer). We wind up with a lot of expensive garbage. There is a dearth of…

> Content has never overshot demand.

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> I would drown myself in content if it were good and abundant. It's not. It's lackluster and middling

There is only an amount of time per day you can dedicate spending in front of a screen outside of work hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

HBO is making things people don't like?

I think that the joke there was that Netflix is small and insignificant and HBO is big and buff.

More that Netflix is making things people don't like

Re: Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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I'm rather curious why they even want HBO. Yes HBO has had far, far more quality programs over the years, but it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to.

Would be a sad day. I typically equate HBO content with focused quality, and Netflix content as the opposite.

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I'd wager that it would accelerate rather than decelerate the growing insignificance of US entertainment.

Good for Bollywood, chinese and russian cinema, and so on. For me personally, I have trouble imagining that HBO would ever again be involved in something on par with The Wire, Sopranos or True Blood, and it's not exactly hard to keep them around on a hard drive somewhere.

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I'm rather curious why they even want HBO. Yes HBO has had far, far more quality programs over the years, but it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to. Would be a sad day. I typically equate HBO content with focused quality, and Netflix content as the opposite.

Deep IP catalog. DC, Game of Thrones, Harry Potter,….

Re: Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…

I highly recommend the website "youtube.com" there's a lot of content on there that's excellent. I am never for want of something to watch, it sort of seems like an absolute golden age of content production to me.

I'm trying to watch long form cinematic content, not a 10 minute diy video for turning my toaster into a flamethrower with three minutes of ads and "smash that like button" interspersed.

There wre a few YouTube channels I like but they are all educational where one guy talks to the camera about a thing. Is there decent fiction on YouTube? I haven't seen any.

Re: Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…

HBO cancelled Perry Mason, one of the better done noir detective series. That was kind of the nail in the coffin for me. I still get it free because of my AT&T subscription, but I can't argue that Netflix has really come out with anything really worth watching either - Department Q and Mindhunter are only two that I think of that were decent.

I agree that the majority of stuff on streaming services is complete garbage and nothing is really "binge worthy" like it used to be. The one thing I used to love about Netlfix was going back and watching old movies like Chinatown or To Live and Die in LA. Those are all gone now, replaced with its own produced content that I just think isn't in the same league.

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Wow if Netflix buys hbo there isn’t really anything more left in the market to compete with them. On the plus side users don’t have to worry about paying for multiple services.

Except there's still Paramount, Disney and Hulu, and even if you get them all, there's no guarantee you can stream what you want to watch due to some bullshit regional distribution rights restrictions, which makes no sense in the digital era...

> Except there's still Paramount, Disney and Hulu

Should be:

> Except there's still Paramount and Disney/Hulu

Disney and Hulu are combining.

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