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State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

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Re: State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

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Who is using grok code and why?

It's a 1.7 trillion token free model. Why wouldn't you try it? I've been testing free models for coding hobby projects after I burnt through way too many expensive tokens on Replit and Claude. Grok wasn't great, kept getting into loops for me. I had better results using KAT coder on opencode (also free).

> Why wouldn't you try it?

Because the people behind it and myself having at least some standards

Re: State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

#32
post #8

According to the report, 52% of all open-source AI is used for *roleplaying*. They attribute it to fewer content filters and higher creativity. I'm pretty surprised by that, but I guess that also selects for people who would use openrouter

Or maybe it’s just strange classification. I see a lot of prompts on the internet looking like “act as a senior xxx expert with over 15 years of industry experience and answer the following: [insert simple question]”

I hope those are not classified as “roleplaying” the “roleplay” here is just a trick to get better answer from the model, often in a professional setting that has nothing to do with creative writing of NSFW stuff

Re: State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

#33
post #10

Who is using grok code and why?

It was (is?) free with eg. opencode -- so, open-source coding agent + free sota model, it's hard to resist. That said, grok fast is fast, but not that great when compared to the other top tier models.

Re: State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

#34

Overall really interesting read, but I'm having trouble processing this: > OpenRouter performs internal categorization on a random sample comprising approximately 0.25% of all prompts How can you arrive at any conclusion with such a small random sample size?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_limit_theorem

For example, even 300 really random people is enough to correctly assertain the distribution of population for some measurement (say, some personality feauture).

That’s the basis of all polls and what have you

Re: State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

#36

Overall really interesting read, but I'm having trouble processing this: > OpenRouter performs internal categorization on a random sample comprising approximately 0.25% of all prompts How can you arrive at any conclusion with such a small random sample size?

Because the accuracy of an estimated quantity mostly depends on the size of the sample, not on the size of the population [1]. This does require assumptions like somewhat homogenous population and normal distributions etc. However, these assumptions often hold.

[1] https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/166/how-do-you-dec...

Re: State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

#37

This is interesting, but I found it moderately disturbing that they spend a LOT of effort up front talking about how they don’t have any access to the prompts or responses. And then they reveal that they did actually have access to the text and they spend 80% of the rest of the paper analyzing the content.

>And then they reveal that they did actually have access to the text

I'm not seeing that. All I'm seeing is them analyzing metadata.

Re: State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

#38
post #34

Overall really interesting read, but I'm having trouble processing this: > OpenRouter performs internal categorization on a random sample comprising approximately 0.25% of all prompts How can you arrive at any conclusion with such a small random sample size?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_limit_theorem For example, even 300 really random people is enough to correctly assertain the distribution of population for some measurement (say, some personality feauture). That’s the basis of all polls and what have you

I think you might be thrashing around 30 samples for a normal distribution and the Central Limit Theorem and accidentally added a zero!

(OK, on rereading, you did link to a WP article about CLT, so 30 it is!)

Re: State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

#39
post #8

According to the report, 52% of all open-source AI is used for *roleplaying*. They attribute it to fewer content filters and higher creativity. I'm pretty surprised by that, but I guess that also selects for people who would use openrouter

That also stuck out for me, I was wondering if it was video games using openrouter for uptime / inference switching, video games would use a lot of tokens generating dialogue for a few programmer's villages.

Re: State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

#40

Overall really interesting read, but I'm having trouble processing this: > OpenRouter performs internal categorization on a random sample comprising approximately 0.25% of all prompts How can you arrive at any conclusion with such a small random sample size?

Statistical significance comes mostly from N (number of samples) and the variance on the dimension you're trying to measure[1]. If the variance is high, you'll need higher N. If the variance is low, you'll need a lower N. The percentage of the population is not relevant (N = 1000 might be significant and it doesn't matter if it's 1% or 30% of the population)

[^1] This is a simplification. I should say that it depends on the standard error of your statistic, i.e, the thing you're trying to measure (If you're estimating the max of a population, that's going to require more samples than if you're estimating the mean). This standard error, in turn, will depend on the standard deviation of the dimension you're measuring. For example, if you're estimating the mean height, the relevant quantity is the standard deviation of height in the population.

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