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Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by jiqiren »

hinkley wrote: post #16
IshKebab wrote: post #7

Lack of investment more like. There are a ton of simple and obvious bugs that have persisted well before the AI crazy, e.g. this annoying bug from 2021: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/6874 This one is almost a one-line change (technically they need an extra flag in the YAML but that's hardly difficult): https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/12882#discussi... That said, I still think Github is f…

Not spending on maintenance is bad. Not spending on maintenance and spending gobs on something many people don’t want is far worse. It says we have the money, we just don’t give a fuck.

The evidence of AI failure is all this low hanging fruit maintenance fixes users are begging Microsoft to fix and these AI agents are not fixing them. AI was going to 10x engineers or something right? Why isn’t GitHub getting better with all this AI help?

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by cyberax »

hinkley wrote: post #15
phoronixrly wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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So how many bugs did you file on sourceforge when GitHub hadn’t quite killed it off?

I used to submit quite a few back in the day. How many projects are still actively maintained on Sourceforge? The last time I needed to go there was to get the GPC (General Polygon Clipper) library with the last modification in 2014.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by seg_lol »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #27
mechazawa wrote: post #2

More and more projects are moving to Codeberg, and I'm wondering; at what point will a critical mass be reached? Or will we end up with a fragmented ecosystem?

Hopefully one of the efforts to build distributed pull requests will take off, so that all the forges other than github can band together and interoperate.

That would be the single best thing that they could do, it would make moving off of github a gain in capabilities.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by p2detar »

themgt wrote: post #19

I have sympathy for some of the GitHub complaints. otoh just went to try to signup for Codeberg and it's down ... 95% uptime over the last 2 weeks? https://status.codeberg.org/status/codeberg

There have been complaints about it on Reddit as well. I registered an account recently and to me the annoying thing is the constant "making sure you are not a bot" check. For now I see no reason to migrate, but I do admit Forgejo looks very interesting to self-host.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by politelemon »

aatd86 wrote: post #25
thewisenerd wrote: post #3

previously discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46064571 Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg - 883 comments

Didn't know about codeberg and can't even access it... Is it https://codeberg.org/ ??

That is correct. It is down quite a bit. https://status.codeberg.org/status/codeberg

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by bayindirh »

letmetweakit wrote: post #26
bayindirh wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, they're battling with DDoS all the time. I follow their account on Mastodon, and they're pretty open about it. I believe the correct question is "Why they are getting DDoSed this much if they are not something important?" For anyone who wants to follow: https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg Even their status page is under attack. Sorry for my French, but WTF?

That's rough ... it is a bad, bad world out there.

Try exposing a paswordless SSH server to outside to see what happens. It'll be tried immediately, non-stop.

Now, all the servers I run has no public SSH ports, anymore. This is also why I don't expose home-servers to internet. I don't want that chaos at my doorstep.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by fsflover »

IshKebab wrote: post #8
xeonmc wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say fragmented I say decentralized.

I say "I'm not making yet another account to report this bug". Tangled is trying to solve that problem but we'll see.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33730417

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by exceptione »

bayindirh wrote: post #20
themgt wrote: post #19

I have sympathy for some of the GitHub complaints. otoh just went to try to signup for Codeberg and it's down ... 95% uptime over the last 2 weeks? https://status.codeberg.org/status/codeberg

I mean, they're battling with DDoS all the time. I follow their account on Mastodon, and they're pretty open about it. I believe the correct question is "Why they are getting DDoSed this much if they are not something important?" For anyone who wants to follow: https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg Even their status page is under attack. Sorry for my French, but WTF?

Crazy. Who would have an incentive to spend resources on DDoS'ing Codeberg? The only party I can think of would be Github. I know that the normalization of ruthlessness and winner-takes-all mentality made crime mandatory for large parts of the economy, but still cannot wrap my mind around it.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by mkornaukhov »

IMHO, the main advantage of github is that it is an ecosystem. This is a well-thought-out Swiss knife: a pioneering (but no longer new) PR system, convenient issues, as well as a well-formed CI system with many developed actions and free runners. In addition, it is best to use code navigation simply in a web browser. You write code, and almost everything works effortlessly. Having a sponsorship system is also great, you don't have to search for external donation platforms and post weird links in your profile/repository.

All in one, that's why developers like it so much. The obsession with AI makes me nervous, but the advantages still outweigh, as for me, the average developer. For now.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by crimsoneer »

phoronixrly wrote: post #11
IshKebab wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say "I'm not making yet another account to report this bug". Tangled is trying to solve that problem but we'll see.

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Wait, how is Tangled VC controlled? As far as I Know, it's actually decentralised properly on atproto, with barely any bluesky dependencies?
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