what's their business model now?
Stackoverflow Outage
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#32This is an ill formed question. Stackoverflow may be up or down. Please return later when you are able to determine exactly where your problem is and have read all the documentation on Unix, C and the internet.
Closed as a duplicate of "cloudflare outage"
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#33The crew that runs SO must be aware of the tone in this thread, right? There always seems to be a strong consensus whenever SO is mentioned on HN, and it’s always very negative. Why don’t they change the moderation rules, if the supposed target audience is constantly frustrated with them?
They don't care. They have a dogmatic belief that they're right.
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#34I thought they're just shutting down because it wasn't worth running the servers anymore.
Last I heard they self hosted. Far as I understand it’s incredibly cheap for them to host. Especially since they’ve been completely cannibalized.
They have since been bought by private equity and brought on architecture astronauts who moved it to a cloud provider.
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#35The crew that runs SO must be aware of the tone in this thread, right? There always seems to be a strong consensus whenever SO is mentioned on HN, and it’s always very negative. Why don’t they change the moderation rules, if the supposed target audience is constantly frustrated with them?
You hear about the people who complain but not the hundreds of thousands who search for something, get a StackOverflow result, read it and leave happily.
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#36I'm a top 5% contributor to SO with around 300-400 answers (haven't actively answered a question in a while). One of the highlights of my career was seeing people benefit from those answers, post commentary, and update my answers. In the last year, there's actually been 0 engagement on all of my questions. One of the rare/sad aspects of how ChatGPT has impacted our community.
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#37The crew that runs SO must be aware of the tone in this thread, right? There always seems to be a strong consensus whenever SO is mentioned on HN, and it’s always very negative. Why don’t they change the moderation rules, if the supposed target audience is constantly frustrated with them?
SO has been in decline for many years now; there's not much they could do to stop it now. Even if they could, it's hard to say whether that would be a net good for SO; part of what drove people to it in the first place was its steadfast dedication to maintaining a curated knowledge base, even with the impact that would have on long-term community health.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
SO is probably a very significant factor in the success of LLMs but it's decline will not affect LLM development. LLMs will simply be trained on the conversations people are having with them.
I either misunderstand or disagree with that idea: People go to the llm to request help. How is that conversation going to be a good source to increase future knowledge? No one is going to ChatGPT to explain to it how they solved a problem.
Unlikely to happen with conversations, yes, but very likely to happen implicitly as part of work with coding agents. Successful agent trajectories will be used to learn what works and what doesn't for a given API.
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#39The crew that runs SO must be aware of the tone in this thread, right? There always seems to be a strong consensus whenever SO is mentioned on HN, and it’s always very negative. Why don’t they change the moderation rules, if the supposed target audience is constantly frustrated with them?
SO has been in decline for many years now; there's not much they could do to stop it now. Even if they could, it's hard to say whether that would be a net good for SO; part of what drove people to it in the first place was its steadfast dedication to maintaining a curated knowledge base, even with the impact that would have on long-term community health.
There's plenty they could do. Nobody knows what it is, but it exists. And maintaining a curated knowledge base never had very much to do with what brought people to the site, but they still don't seem to get that.
Could be conflicts of interest involved too. For a while it seemed someone was getting paid at least a little to close every Israel question on politics.se.
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#40The crew that runs SO must be aware of the tone in this thread, right? There always seems to be a strong consensus whenever SO is mentioned on HN, and it’s always very negative. Why don’t they change the moderation rules, if the supposed target audience is constantly frustrated with them?
It’s no longer relevant. It doesn’t really matter what they do. The site is going to die. It was an artifact of a different time.