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I have to laugh at the absurdity of a German company evaluating quality and reliability of vehicles.
Do you know where most performance and luxury vehicles beyond mass manufactured models are designed?
The Tesla Model Y Just Scored the Worst Reliability Rating in a Decade
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#32Had my Model Y for 4 years with no issue! Funny enough, my 2007 BMW had so many issues and cost so much to maintain i used to call it a “wallet burning machine”
B-M-trouble-yew is another fave
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#33I’m confused from the report about how Volkswagen and Mercedes beat Toyota in reliability when my perception is that it’s not even close. Are the Germans biasing toward their companies? Or am I underrating VW’s quality?
First off, all manufacturers are way, way closer in practical reliability than internet comment section circle jerks. It's like when you look at a wild stock ticker and then see the Y axis is somewhere misleadingly far from zero.
Second, as described in other comments, this is just an analysis of safety inspection data. So you've got to consider the ease with which people can "just take it to the dealer", whether they trust the dealer enough to take petty stuff to them and the kind of people who buy what (Altima factor).
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#34Here are the key points one can have after using some scripts to load the content: * Tesla Model Y ranked most unreliable among nearly new cars, with 17.3% serious defect rate. * TÜV report found rising major defects, particularly in electric vehicles like Tesla’s Model 3 and Y. * European brands, especially Mercedes and Volkswagen, dominated reliability rankings across all age groups.
Are you sure about that third point? Going to the graph they link, Volkswagen ranks near dead last: https://www.autoblog.com/features/predicted-car-reliability
It was a copy/paste, I make no claims about whatever the points indicate
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#35The post doesn't link to the report itself. It looks like you can only read a summary of it for free and must pay 5.90 to download a copy.[1] From what I can glean from reading TUV's summary, it seems like the Teslas had significantly higher mileage than other vehicles (>50,000km in 2-3 years). Also their failures were mostly in brake discs and rear axle issues, which makes me think that due to regenerative braking, the discs were rusty from disuse. The rear axle issue they mention is probably a clicking noise caused by under-torqued rear halfshaft nuts.[2] Tesla updated their torque values last year[3], so this shouldn't be a problem anymore. Any older vehicle that has the click can be fixed by re-lubricating the hub and torquing the nut to the new value.
Without paying for the report, we can only speculate as to what TUV considers a serious defect. If the rates are as high as claimed (17% Model Y, 13% Model 3), then the issues are most likely minor things such as rusty brakes or rear axle clicking. Rusty brakes are less than ideal, but they're common on EVs and they work just fine. The fix is to simply use the brakes occasionally. If anything it's an indication that the vehicle requires less maintenance because the brake pads won't need replacement as frequently.
1. https://www.tuvsud.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2025/novem...
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HncCmgMp-s
3. https://service.tesla.com/docs/Model3/ServiceManual/2024/en-...
Re: The Tesla Model Y Just Scored the Worst Reliability Rating in a Decade
#36Had my Model Y for 4 years with no issue! Funny enough, my 2007 BMW had so many issues and cost so much to maintain i used to call it a “wallet burning machine”
So your 19 year old car has more trouble than your 4 year old car? Weird.
Or maybe their 2007 BMW was causing them to lose money since 2007.
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#37Re: The Tesla Model Y Just Scored the Worst Reliability Rating in a Decade
#38I am not surprised, my model s, supposedly a good build year is absolutely crappy and feels like a cheap piece of plastic. Talk about regret! I can only complain anonymously because I am sure musk will be vindictive and cut off all updates, service and even self driving just for me :)
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#39I’ve owned two model Ys over the past 5 years or so. Zero maintenance issues. I also had a 2020 Model 3 that I recently sold and it had 1 issue with the small secondary battery after 5 years. Tesla charged me ~$140 to come to my house and replace it.
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#40I have a 2019 Model 3, and it has some paint issues, specifically in the door hinge areas. It had some suspension issues which were repaired in half a day, under warranty. It has an issue where the windshield in front of the self driving cameras gets obscured with some gunk, blocking the cameras (it continues self driving even when half blind). The steering wheel material is falling apart. Other than that, for the pa…
are you familiar with how statistics and sample sizes work?
I mean this is like comment and comment reply number three of the same pattern: "I have Tesla Model 3|Y and it's doing well" --> "sample size of 1 mreh".
Reviews tend to skew negative. Where are all the angry Tesla owners here? (Seriously. I want to hear from angry HN readers about bad 3|Y ownership experience.)
I have a Y and an S (Palladium) and the Y is solid (only service for usual EV wear items) but the S has been... a "luxury" vehicle let's say that. I'd imagine some of the issues it had in its history wouldn't pass German TUV, but I got the things I noticed fixed under warranty.
I'm really curious how the newer vehicles do. It's a bit of a running joke "the new ones will be better!" but I really do see the improvement in my 2023 Y versus the 2020 3 I had. The S falls somewhere in between in a way that makes sense given its price point and year.