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KDE Plasma 6.8 Will Go Wayland-Exclusive in Dropping X11 Session Support

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Re: KDE Plasma 6.8 Will Go Wayland-Exclusive in Dropping X11 Session Support

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The future is now old man.

The future seems buggy and incomplete.

But it's coming anyway, whether people like it or not.

FWIW, it is my understanding that XWayland is still supported, so it's not like your apps will stop working.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.8 Will Go Wayland-Exclusive in Dropping X11 Session Support

#32

Wayland has still no way to set DPI of multiple monitors. The fonts look terrible on it. I had to move to KDE Plasma on X11 ever since GNOME started forcing Wayland on us. I guess I have to buy a 4K monitor in future.

Sure it does. I have that set right now... Fonts looking terrible seems to only be when using an x app on wayland

> Fonts looking terrible seems to only be when using an x app on wayland

I suspect the original commenter had an issue with GNOME specifically, as I've noticed it too, on Wayland native apps. GNOME handled fractional scaling poorly, and fonts didn't align to the grid right and looked fuzzy at anything that's not 1x or 2x scale.

KDE got this right from day 1.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.8 Will Go Wayland-Exclusive in Dropping X11 Session Support

#34
This is an interesting move, and I wonder what that means for accessibility in Plasma. Wayland simply isn't designed with accessibility in mind, so each compositor ends up having to implement their own non-standard APIs. I know virtual keyboards are lacking for example.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.8 Will Go Wayland-Exclusive in Dropping X11 Session Support

#35
That's extremely disappointing. Wayland has gotten a lot better but there are still many, many instances where I have to switch into an X11 session in order to play certain games (especially older ones). I am a huge fan of KDE but this may actually force me to switch to something else :(

Re: KDE Plasma 6.8 Will Go Wayland-Exclusive in Dropping X11 Session Support

#38
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The future seems buggy and incomplete.

But it's coming anyway, whether people like it or not. FWIW, it is my understanding that XWayland is still supported, so it's not like your apps will stop working.

My problems with Wayland are KDE specific. I tired it, but there where so many window management regressions and sometimes graphical glitches that I switched back. But that was under plasma 6.4. Have to try again now on 6.5 to see if these issues are fixed. If not I should write a bug report, I guess.

Also there needs to be an alternative for (or patch to) simplescreenrecorder that works under Wayland. I don't want use a complex thing like OBS to make a quick demo video to demonstrate something for a co-worker and stuff.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.8 Will Go Wayland-Exclusive in Dropping X11 Session Support

#39

Wayland has still no way to set DPI of multiple monitors. The fonts look terrible on it. I had to move to KDE Plasma on X11 ever since GNOME started forcing Wayland on us. I guess I have to buy a 4K monitor in future.

I thought this problem was Wayland's reason for existing?

Nah mate, it's all about the Wayland Trust model. No keylogging, consent-based screen recording, and no window spying. Isolation.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.8 Will Go Wayland-Exclusive in Dropping X11 Session Support

#40
post #14

As a fvwm user, if Linux forces Wayland on me, I guess my 30 year use of Linux may be coming to an end. Oh well.

There's a new fdo project called Wayback, which is a stub Wayland compositor that runs a rootful Xwayland that then acts as a full X server to host your X11 window manager/DE. Long-term, this will allow people who rely on X11 sessions to continue to run them indefinitely, while also providing better support for modern display hardware than Xorg's native KMS backend. https://wayback.freedesktop.org/
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