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Re: Memories of .us

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Post by ziml77 »

morcus wrote: post #9

> Technically speaking, the top of the DNS tree, the DNS root, is a null label referenced by a trailing dot. It's analogous to the '/' at the beginning of POSIX file paths. "gatech.edu" really should be written as "gatech.edu." to make it absolute rather than relative I have never seen this, but I just tried it and it seems like browsers, even today will happily handle such URLs. Neat!

> Even today

It's not like it's archaic. You still use the trailing dot when setting up DNS records to ensure they're unambiguous.

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Post by NooneAtAll3 »

Lt_Riza_Hawkeye wrote: post #22
morcus wrote: post #9

> Technically speaking, the top of the DNS tree, the DNS root, is a null label referenced by a trailing dot. It's analogous to the '/' at the beginning of POSIX file paths. "gatech.edu" really should be written as "gatech.edu." to make it absolute rather than relative I have never seen this, but I just tried it and it seems like browsers, even today will happily handle such URLs. Neat!

They need to, as when the "." is not present, your search domains are used, but they are not used when the trailing "." is present. For example, if you enter "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com", and your search domains contain one item called "mycompany.tld", then the browser will first query DNS servers for "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com.", and when an NXDOMAIN is returned, they will try "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com.mycompany.tld." next. If you type…

what's search domain?

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Post by aftbit »

Wow yes, I also remember my high school's k12 domain name! What an interesting trip down memory lane; wonderful, like most of computer.rip!

Is it possible to register e.g. X.ca.us domains today? What are the criteria required to do so?

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Post by dhosek »

musicale wrote: post #34

> "gatech.edu" really should be written as "gatech.edu." https://www.gatech.edu./ does seem to work for me. It is interesting that URLs often contain two hierarchies in opposite directions: https://something.myorg.org/something/more/specific/

Indeed, back in the 90s I remember trying to decide whether to do foo.bar.com or bar.com/foo for various subsites of my main domain back then.

Re: Memories of .us

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Post by mjmas »

decimalenough wrote: post #28
jjmarr wrote: post #2

Subdivided geographic TLDs are still common in Ontario govts, such as gov.on.ca [1] and tdsb.on.ca for Toronto schools.[2] Both are still in common use. [1] https://kagi.com/search?q=site%3Agov.on.ca&r=ca&sh=lUDz_I8Uq... [2] https://kagi.com/search?q=site%3ATDSB.on.ca&r=ca&sh=jysEnEgZ...

Australia does the same for organizations regulated at the state level, like schools. However, while all other states/territories do $SCHOOL.$STATE.edu.au: https://www.abbotsfordps.vic.edu.au/ https://southperthps.wa.edu.au/ https://perthprimary.education.tas.edu.au/ https://nthadelaideps.sa.edu.au/ https://www.nightcliffprimary.nt.edu.au/ https://www.forrestps.act.edu.au/ NSW uses $SCHOOL.schools.nsw.gov.au: https:/…

For Queensland it looks like private schools get a .qld.edu.au domain and state schools get an .eq.edu.au one. For example: https://www.twgs.qld.edu.au/ .

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Post by adastra22 »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #32
Lt_Riza_Hawkeye wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They need to, as when the "." is not present, your search domains are used, but they are not used when the trailing "." is present. For example, if you enter "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com", and your search domains contain one item called "mycompany.tld", then the browser will first query DNS servers for "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com.", and when an NXDOMAIN is returned, they will try "ajdfajkhdfkajd.com.mycompany.tld." next. If you type…

what's search domain?

The comment explains it.

Re: Memories of .us

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Post by basch »

musicale wrote: post #34

> "gatech.edu" really should be written as "gatech.edu." https://www.gatech.edu./ does seem to work for me. It is interesting that URLs often contain two hierarchies in opposite directions: https://something.myorg.org/something/more/specific/

its not really two hierarchies, its just one written backwards for a while, and then forward.

if you reverse the backwards part you get

https://org.myorg.something./something/more/specific/

the dots separate computers or networks and the slashes separate folders.

Re: Memories of .us

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Post by basch »

jjmarr wrote: post #2

Subdivided geographic TLDs are still common in Ontario govts, such as gov.on.ca [1] and tdsb.on.ca for Toronto schools.[2] Both are still in common use. [1] https://kagi.com/search?q=site%3Agov.on.ca&r=ca&sh=lUDz_I8Uq... [2] https://kagi.com/search?q=site%3ATDSB.on.ca&r=ca&sh=jysEnEgZ...

in what I find to be unfortunate, I have noticed a trend in the reverse direction.

http://shoreviewmn.gov/ should have a dot between the city and the state. they chose some form of human usability over precision. I trust it ever so slightly less, because it is cute before hierarchical.

https://www.mvpschools.org/ formerly https://www.moundsviewschools.org are the domain names for a school district. The fact they chose the P between mv and school (which stands for public) makes it look like phishing or social engineering. It erodes trust in both technical decisions and branding decisions made.

Because domains are hard to read, and people were never taught to read them, we lost out on being able to establish trust because something reads "mv.k12.mn.us" (or preferably us.mn.k12.mv) which is two characters SHORTER than mvpschools.org!

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