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Bureau of Meteorology's new boss asked to examine $96M bill for website redesign

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Re: Bureau of Meteorology's new boss asked to examine $96M bill for website redesign

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> complete rebuild was necessary to ensure the website meets modern security... requirements > launch and security testing cost $12.6 million What are the challenging security concerns for a weather website? And why would testing alone cost $10+ million?

In the UK, the Met Office is part of the military, for historical reasons.

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Hopefully they'll go through all billed invoices with a microscope. My guess is that this will reveal outright fraud from the consulting firm(s), in the form of overbilling in hours. Even if they bill $500/hr, and they billed 24 hours a day, that would come out to $4.38m / year for each consultant. That's a 11 member team billing 24 hours a day, all year round, for two years straight. And if they billed more realisti…

I doubt that the consulting firm seriously overbilled. To my knowledge rather consulting firms are great at selling the necessity of lots of consultants or consultant days: Just let the customer talk very openly about their wishes for the project, and you immediately get an insane scope explosion for the project, i.e. it "needs" an insane amount of consultants over many years to implement all these wishes. To increas…

You just do it at enterprise scale with all the people needed to make it enterprise legible... and a couple of setbacks and change orders later and you're at 2.5x the original budget!

Re: Bureau of Meteorology's new boss asked to examine $96M bill for website redesign

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, here is another realistic hypothetical: a team of 10 devs billing $500/hour, plus extra "package" fees for subject matter expert review, machine learning experts advice, senior partner reviews, focus group experiments, A/B test monitoring, regulatory compliance lawyers, all coming at extra cost. You will find that they can milk that cow legally in much more imaginative ways than your calculation.

Exactly this. At least in the US, consultancies that contract with the gov’t can keep a small full time staff in order to qualify for small-business preference and keep their overhead low, and then depend on an army of subcontractors for large projects.

Usually there are hard limits around doing 51% of the work yourself, so you can only sub out half of it.

Re: Bureau of Meteorology's new boss asked to examine $96M bill for website redesign

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This is the type of thing that requires everybody who signed off on this and their bosses to be jailed for fraud. Also, the billing company names involved in the billing should be jailed for fraud too. Jail them for five years each by setting them as an example.

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> "It is unbelievable a private consultancy was paid $78 million to redesign the website," Mr Littleproud said. This is the crux of the issue. If you have outsourced software engineering competency, yet one of your core missions is maintaining a large pile of software, then this is the inevitable result.

The private consultancy likely outsourced pieces of the work to (far) lesser-paid subcontractors, too. I would imagine the margins on that project to be astronomical.

My primary competition is guys who are good at marketing, sell expensive packages, and then have someone in the Phillipines or Vietnam do the actual work for a tiny fraction of what is paid.

My primary source of business is customers who paid a lot for they and didn’t get what they asked for and then the vendor blames it all on their subcontractor, or expects more money at astronomical rates. For example $200 an hour for basic WordPress customisation.

Re: Bureau of Meteorology's new boss asked to examine $96M bill for website redesign

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> complete rebuild was necessary to ensure the website meets modern security... requirements > launch and security testing cost $12.6 million What are the challenging security concerns for a weather website? And why would testing alone cost $10+ million?

In the UK, the Met Office is part of the military, for historical reasons.

I didn't know that about the UK...and my instinct immediately was to think that the UK meteorologists are some awesome badasses walking around with military uniforms and some cool weather patch on their shoulder! :-)

Half-seriously, it does kinda send a signal that such a function for government (meteorology) is so essential, that it stayed lumped in with another important function of government (military/defense). I think its not a bad idea! I admit to not knowing any details at all for how its actually run in the UK...but i contrast that with the severe gutting of budgets of essential agencies in the U.S....and yet again, feel envious of other countries. (Well, maybe not envious of whomever approved the contracts for the AU BOM website, but still envious in other areas.)

Re: Bureau of Meteorology's new boss asked to examine $96M bill for website redesign

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> complete rebuild was necessary to ensure the website meets modern security... requirements > launch and security testing cost $12.6 million What are the challenging security concerns for a weather website? And why would testing alone cost $10+ million?

In the UK, the Met Office is part of the military, for historical reasons.

It looks like it was part of the MoD but it's now part of DSIT:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Met_Office

Re: Bureau of Meteorology's new boss asked to examine $96M bill for website redesign

#40
It's extraordinary how far departments (even large companies) will go to avoid in-sourcing work. $AU96M is a small team of developers hired, paid and pensioned for decades.

Anyone rubber-stamping that sort of invoice deserves jail time.

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