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Dark Mode Sucks

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

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post #13

Without taking an extreme or absolutist stance on this issue, I generally agree with the author here. Dark mode should be reserved for after sunset and before sunrise. The eyes are adapted to see daylight levels of light during daytime. If your ambient lighting and screen don't match this, then you're not using your body in the way it's evolved to function. What we need more of are screens with anti-glare and a wide…

> Dark mode should be reserved for after sunset and before sunrise. Isn’t that already how it works in all major operating systems?

No, it’s only configurable. And many people like myself leave it dark mode permanently unless in a bright place.

I think the debate comes down to how bright you keep your environment.

OP likes bright overhead lighting and confuses that preference for the superiority of a preference downstream of it. Yawn.

I’d rather look at a bright 27” screen in dark mode where I see full color fidelity than dim the screen so that bright backgrounds aren’t too harsh. But it’s just a preference.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#32
What bothers me is when you copy something from dark mode, and then paste it somewhere normal and you see unreadable background-styled text ■■■■■■■■■■■■■.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#33
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You often don't have a choice. Not without being forced to tinker around with your browser in ways that aren't readily accessible to many/most users. What us dark-mode haters are really asking for is a simple option to click.

Is it though? Most apps I am using are following the OS/browser preferences or are light mode as a default. One of the more notable exceptions is Discord, but that is largely explained away by the fact that the gaming focused audience often demands dark modes. Also, the dark mode setting in mist browsers is one search entry away. I really don't see the problem here

Well, I guess that's fine for the "gaming-focused audience," then.

For the benefit of the rest of us, explain how to turn off "dark mode" when viewing specific websites that are hardwired to use it, while running Safari on iOS, or in Firefox on desktop, without installing various extensions that may not be available to users at work, or changing the way the whole OS appears.

Edit due to rate-limiting: The Firefox theme has absolutely nothing to do with how a web page is rendered. Select the light theme and go to Hackaday, or a logged-out Mastodon page, and you will find that it looks exactly the same.

Same with the peanut gallery that always pops up with helpful advice like "Just change your OS theme." Even if that would help, which it wouldn't, I'm not going to change the global OS appearance to accommodate a few asshat web designers.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#35
I occasionally get requests from readers to add a dark mode to my blog - https://simonwillison.net/ - and I'm never sure how much priority I should give those, as someone who almost never chooses to use dark mode.

Dark mode fans: does it really bother you to read white web pages?

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#36
> Fix your lighting instead of bullying the rest of the Internet into eyesight-damaging practices.

Is there actually any evidence to support this claim? As far as I know, bright screen and dim room usually leads to eye fatigue and eye strain, but these are temporary issues. As far as I understood, any claims that computer work leads to long term vision problems are largely unfounded. Am I missing something here?

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#38
post #2

wow that was a huge waste of time, why write this or post it?

Because so many sites insist on shoving dark mode down their readers' throats, despite decades of reliable, repeatable human-interface research that has unequivocally demonstrated that it's the wrong thing to do. Any other questions, or are you short on time to waste yourself? Edit due to rate-limiting: It should, but apparently doesn't, go without saying that using a terminal is very different from reading a web pag…

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#39

What bothers me is when you copy something from dark mode, and then paste it somewhere normal and you see unreadable background-styled text ■■■■■■■■■■■■■.

Paste unstyled: CTRL+SHIFT+V, or the Mac equivalent.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#40

Without taking an extreme or absolutist stance on this issue, I generally agree with the author here. Dark mode should be reserved for after sunset and before sunrise. The eyes are adapted to see daylight levels of light during daytime. If your ambient lighting and screen don't match this, then you're not using your body in the way it's evolved to function. What we need more of are screens with anti-glare and a wide…

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