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False dichotomy, just advertise based on the content of the site without spying on people
Loaded language, it can’t be “spying” if the user consents.
Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
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Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
#32In the meantime, if you're browsing the web with uBlock Origin, you should definitely enable cookie list filters in Dashboard > Filter lists > Cookie Notices. Haven't seen a banner in ages.
Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
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The choice citizens would make every single time is to see the website without ads. Of course, publishers aren’t happy about that, since they would have to close shop. Maybe the EC should consider both sides of the equation.
False dichotomy, just advertise based on the content of the site without spying on people
The real solution would be to make users pay for the content, but charging for something that users used to get for "free" is also essentially impossible.
Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
#34Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
#35yes. everyone install Cookie Auto Delete. the problem is a plugin like that would take out entire industries because it would basically end anonymous tracking cookies.
Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
#36In the meantime, if you're browsing the web with uBlock Origin, you should definitely enable cookie list filters in Dashboard > Filter lists > Cookie Notices. Haven't seen a banner in ages.
Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
#37This was the correct decision and could have been made a decade ago. An .. institutional deficiency was trying to make the GDPR as completely general as possible rather than doing a technology mandate. But this had two consequences: bad actors could circumvent it, and good actors just trying to comply ended up horribly confused (e.g. is logging an IP address in an Apache log "personal data"?). DNT header. Legally bin…
Making it a technological mandate would have made it trivial to circumvent.
Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
#38> This is not a real choice made by citizens This is something which courts should consider more about other things, such as EULA and Terms and Conditions. Same reasons.
The choice citizens would make every single time is to see the website without ads. Of course, publishers aren’t happy about that, since they would have to close shop. Maybe the EC should consider both sides of the equation.
Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
#39Step 1: force websites to add an opt-out flow for privacy-minded users.
Step 2: websites don't complain too much because they can implement it in obnoxious and dark-pattern-laden ways, so that few users actually opt-out.
Step 3: now that websites have proven there's no technical barrier and the flows are already implemented, slowly retire unnecessary user tracking and data sharing.
I'd be surprised if this was planned ahead of time, but it's not a bad strategy.
Re: Europe's cookie nightmare is crumbling. EC wants preference at browser level
#40Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45667866 Personally, I find this a move in the wrong direction where hostile behavior by websites is normalized and hidden. Cookie banners show web site true colors. When someone asks me to share data with a thousand of "partners", I leave.