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I don’t need a Steam Machine

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Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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post #15

Kudos to the author. I also will not buy a steam Box. But i appreciate the effect it will have on gaming and Linux. I use Mint and use steam to play my games just fine. For some games it is a little bit shaky. Game company’s now have a incentive to make gaming just feel right on a Linux machine much more than like the switch deck. Just my thinking of course

if you read to the end, you'll see he gets one anyway

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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post #12

Steam Machines can become an existencial crisis for PlayStation and Xbox. A “console” that I can use as a PC? I am in 100%. You’ll get the world biggest game library at a discount, this is why I sold my PlayStation after spending 200 euros and watching it becoming useless. I also suspect a lot of game devs will optimize for steam machine and finally we’ll get a console like experience on PC. Don’t let the “low specs”…

Then sony produce ps only exclusive s. No pc ports anymore.

That is only a problem if you suffer from FOMO. Otherwise there are enough PC games for a hundred lifetimes.

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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post #28
post #14

I don't understand the "You can’t buy this without buying the Steam Controller." bit. If you want one, great, if not, it's no more necessary than with any other PC. I've been gaming for ~40 years without ever touching a controller, why would I start now?

Early PC gaming, such as the mid 80s (40 years ago) was dominated by the need for a joystick, which is the parent to modern controllers. Regardless, some games are far better with a joystick, some with mouse. If we care for gaming experiences, it should be whatever is best.

I absolutely get (and happily used) joysticks, but if a game needs a joystick I'll use a joystick, not a controller in the modern console sense. I'm sure those are good for something, but it's not something I've ever played.

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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post #25
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then sony produce ps only exclusive s. No pc ports anymore.

I don’t think that’s true. The whole reason they’re producing PC ports is to sell the most profitable part (software) to those who to haven’t been giving them money. Sony makes zero dollars off of the consoles, and while they do enjoy taking their PS Store royalties rather than giving it up to Steam, they also have a huge collection of first party studios that might even be a more important business. And it’s not lik…

You are mostly right about the broad strategy but a few of the claims are too absolute. Sony does make money on hardware later in the cycle even if margins are small. They also care about PC ports for more than just pure profit such as extending the IP footprint and keeping franchises visible between major releases. The part about delayed PC ports is completely correct. PlayStation is still the primary window and PC is the secondary revenue phase once the console market is saturated.

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then sony produce ps only exclusive s. No pc ports anymore.

Not going to happen. In fact, they seem to go the opposite direction because there's more money to be made.

I also don't believe it, but sony was a all time bad player.

I like the Xbox because they changed so much in the console ecosystem, play anywhere, backwards compatibility without extra cost.

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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post #28
post #14

I don't understand the "You can’t buy this without buying the Steam Controller." bit. If you want one, great, if not, it's no more necessary than with any other PC. I've been gaming for ~40 years without ever touching a controller, why would I start now?

Early PC gaming, such as the mid 80s (40 years ago) was dominated by the need for a joystick, which is the parent to modern controllers. Regardless, some games are far better with a joystick, some with mouse. If we care for gaming experiences, it should be whatever is best.

Rocket league is an example. The pros play on pcs but hook a controller into it

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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post #12

Steam Machines can become an existencial crisis for PlayStation and Xbox. A “console” that I can use as a PC? I am in 100%. You’ll get the world biggest game library at a discount, this is why I sold my PlayStation after spending 200 euros and watching it becoming useless. I also suspect a lot of game devs will optimize for steam machine and finally we’ll get a console like experience on PC. Don’t let the “low specs”…

Man, I got a free ps5 from my isp and was excited to have friends over for games. Come to find out that playing games with your friends apparently isn’t a thing anymore (I guess there’s fighting and racing games). What a lame-ass boring system.

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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post #5

Read all the way to the end: "I’m getting one." So will I, if anything to support the effort, and check it out maybe I'll buy more for my kids or something.

Yeah, I could make a similar post for similar reasons. I already have a bunch of mini-PCs I collect like Raspberry Pis. I already have a mITX build with Bazzite installed on it that I would use over a Steam Machine because it's faster. And like OP, I'd probably get anyways. Assuming price is ~800$ (with controller)

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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When I first saw the Arduino I didn't see the point - after all there were boards that cost less, did more, and the Arduino IDE seemed very barebones compared to what you could do with GCC and a custom toolchain. Then eventually I saw how much community support, ready made hardware emerged around it, to the point that after a while, not going the Arduino route was a decision you needed to justify heavily. Same thing…

> a comparable desktop experience to the commercial OSes

Isn't it alteady comparable? My Linux desktop has almost the same game compatibility that Windows has, and none of the advertising and jank. Gone are the legendary days of xorg.conf. Linux has less problems than Windows now. Support from professional software vendors (Dassault, Autodesk, et al) and Nvidia could be better, admittedly, but these restrictions aren't very relevant to me. As for Mac OS it's fine, I guess, but I strongly dislike the settings program, and it's not like you can install an nvidia card there.

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