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AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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Post by Andrex »

moonleay wrote: post #2

A cool project, when you want to use AirPods outside of Apples ecosystem. Sadly, you have to use a rooted android device with a small patch due to a bug in the Android Bluetooth implementation. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/371713238

I'm convinced it's impossible to implement the BT spec without MANY of these kinds of bugs popping up.

Apple mercy-killed Adobe Flash, we should be asking they do the same to Bluetooth. I'm sick of living in a reality where no one thinks to make something better. It has to be possible.

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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Post by butvacuum »

mhluongo wrote: post #16
fragmede wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And not a small bug either. This large an interoperability issue and it takes a nerd not in the employ of Google to fix their shit? This is why Apple's vertical integration makes it one of richest companies in the world. Google's only up there because of their success in that one business of theirs.

Funny, I was under the impression that Apple's stuff is closed source, so no one outside their employ even could fix a similar issue?

Apparently, android isn't fixing it either.

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

#34

Post by charcircuit »

netsharc wrote: post #22
cbsks wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is such a typical bug report to a large company. A user who spent a lot of time debugging and finding the root cause of an issue, and a few faceless peons at the large company spending a few minutes on it, realizing it’s not a priority, and abandoning it.

Ah, when "open source" means begging an advertisement company to bless your code changes...

It was a hack. An actual code change would be submitted via the gerrit and not buganizer.

https://android-review.googlesource.com/q/status:open+-is:wi...

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

fragmede wrote: post #19
mhluongo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I was under the impression that Apple's stuff is closed source, so no one outside their employ even could fix a similar issue?

What does Apple being Apple have to do with Google not paying somebody to work on getting Airpods, which presumably should conform to some Bluetooth spec, in order to get Airpods to work on Android?

>>...due to a bug in the Android Bluetooth implementation.

The issue can be resolved because an android bug can be debugged by a contributor. A similar issue can't even be analyzed from the apple side by anyone but an apple employee.

We are assuming there are bugs in iOS, but their closed sourceness can mislead people to believe there aren't. Then, yes, their vertical integration makes them rich, which in this case is bad for users, in the guise of being good.

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

#36

Post by SilverElfin »

Andrex wrote: post #31
moonleay wrote: post #2

A cool project, when you want to use AirPods outside of Apples ecosystem. Sadly, you have to use a rooted android device with a small patch due to a bug in the Android Bluetooth implementation. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/371713238

I'm convinced it's impossible to implement the BT spec without MANY of these kinds of bugs popping up. Apple mercy-killed Adobe Flash, we should be asking they do the same to Bluetooth. I'm sick of living in a reality where no one thinks to make something better. It has to be possible.

Mercy killed? Flash was great. There were so many inventive games and animations in that era. Apple didn’t mercy kill anything - they just removed a threat to their walled garden ecosystem using their anticompetitive position, but dressed it up as a security issue.

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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Post by baby_souffle »

SilverElfin wrote: post #36
Andrex wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm convinced it's impossible to implement the BT spec without MANY of these kinds of bugs popping up. Apple mercy-killed Adobe Flash, we should be asking they do the same to Bluetooth. I'm sick of living in a reality where no one thinks to make something better. It has to be possible.

Mercy killed? Flash was great. There were so many inventive games and animations in that era. Apple didn’t mercy kill anything - they just removed a threat to their walled garden ecosystem using their anticompetitive position, but dressed it up as a security issue.

> Flash was great.

It had a great number of CVEs, you mean?

_modern_ HTML and JS have eclipsed flash in all meaningful ways.

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