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Re: The iPad 1

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Post by jhasse »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #24

The disappointment, to me, isn't with the iPad alone. It's with the new move in the industry to non-upgradable devices and internet-dependent software. I've enjoyed my iPad 1 since the day I bought it, and I haven't seen any need to replace it with a newer model. Neither the Retina Display nor the camera were particularly important to me, and I didn't have much need for more storage or memory. Would I like to use iOS…

Android? You knew about your iPad being closed, why did you buy it in the first place?

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by axx »

pmjordan wrote: post #7
axx wrote: post #3

When the iPad 1 launched in germany, i bought a 64GB model with 3G. I payed more than 800 Euros. And now Apple tells me "it's to old, go and sell it on eBay for 150 bucks". Are you fucking kidding me? I'm a Apple user for ages, i have two Mac Pros, three MacBook Pros (family), one MacBook Air and all iPhones that Apple ever made. I sold every old piece of hardware or replaced it when i needed a faster or newer model.…

While I'm as annoyed at Apple as you are (environmentally friendly my arse), Android devices don't exactly have a history of frequent and timely software updates. The saving grace is that new apps often still support ancient OS releases.

Not so sure about that. What happens if you need to restore your iPad 1 and redownload all the Apps? Do you get the latest version, or the latest compatible version of the App, even if the developer dropped support for your iOS version?

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by shurane »

ja27 wrote: post #17
axx wrote: post #3

When the iPad 1 launched in germany, i bought a 64GB model with 3G. I payed more than 800 Euros. And now Apple tells me "it's to old, go and sell it on eBay for 150 bucks". Are you fucking kidding me? I'm a Apple user for ages, i have two Mac Pros, three MacBook Pros (family), one MacBook Air and all iPhones that Apple ever made. I sold every old piece of hardware or replaced it when i needed a faster or newer model.…

I didn't get an iPad 1, partly because I figured the 2nd or 3rd gen device would be so much better. Standing behind me in the iPad 2 line was a guy that had just sold his iPad 1 for $100 less than he'd paid for it. Essentially leasing an iPad for $100 a year sounds like a fine deal. It made me wonder why Apple doesn't do leases or some sort of hardware "subscriptions".

As opposed to getting people to buy it? I thought leasing makes more sense for much more expensive electronics.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by fierarul »

Totally didn't see this coming. I was actually looking into Settings to see if it detects the iOS 6 release and only afterwards I bothered searching the net and finding out there will be no iOS 6 update!

But this is not the biggest disappointment about the iPad1.

The big one was how iPad1 doesn't have a camera and not long after I bought it (when it finally arrived in the EU) Apple released the iPad 2 which had a camera!

How hard could it have been to engineer an external camera for the iPad1 that could be plugged in via a docking connector? This way I could use the iPad upside-down and actually have is usable as a video conferencing device.

I can't even give it to my parents as a laptop replacement (what people imagine it could be) since Skype video won't work on it!

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by sxcurry »

hermanhermitage wrote: post #22
sxcurry wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I have the original iPad as well, but I haven't yet gotten the official message from Apple to sell it on eBay. Maybe they're sending them to Europe first? Also, the strange thing is that it still runs as well as the day I bought it, and still does everything it did from Day 1, as well as new things that came with updates to iOS. I forget, why am I supposed to be angry at Apple?

Still runs as well? I'd love to know what set up you've got. Since iOS 5 my iPad 1 has been utterly unusable - many multi second lags and endless application quits. Even brand new out of the box the iPad 1 and also the original iPhone were incredibly unstable - particularly in safari. Everyone turned a blind eye to it.

Mostly browsing (new Chrome works well), Netflix, LogMeIn Ignition for remote desktop, photo viewing, Skype.

Compared to my new MacBook Air it does seems a little slow starting apps, etc, but the thing is almost 2 1/2 years old, still has good battery life, and basically does everything I want. I think I've got my money's worth already, and expect to keep using it in the future. BTW, cost of those iOS upgrades - $0. Not a bad deal compared to the $50 that software like Parallels keeps asking for every year.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by mythz »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #24

The disappointment, to me, isn't with the iPad alone. It's with the new move in the industry to non-upgradable devices and internet-dependent software. I've enjoyed my iPad 1 since the day I bought it, and I haven't seen any need to replace it with a newer model. Neither the Retina Display nor the camera were particularly important to me, and I didn't have much need for more storage or memory. Would I like to use iOS…

It should be pretty well known by now that upgradable components in hand-held devices is a losing strategy. The mass populace of Consumers just don't care, they wan't something that Just Works, that's simple, pretty and light with a long battery life. Which appears to align with Apple's focus perfectly.

I think it's safe to assume that iOS devices aren't going to come with upgradeable internal components. They've got models at different price points and their 3rd party hardware ecosystems - which they plan satisfying the consumers use-cases until the next version rolls around again.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by shurane »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #24

The disappointment, to me, isn't with the iPad alone. It's with the new move in the industry to non-upgradable devices and internet-dependent software. I've enjoyed my iPad 1 since the day I bought it, and I haven't seen any need to replace it with a newer model. Neither the Retina Display nor the camera were particularly important to me, and I didn't have much need for more storage or memory. Would I like to use iOS…

Decentralized repositories aren't completely better, either. It's all about hybrids, being able to switch between the better and worse of different designs.

Steam is a centralized game store, but it doesn't necessarily lock you in. You can buy individual games from retail or from competitors. But you come to Steam, and it's comforting at least to know the choice is there if you choose to exercise it.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by PuerkitoBio »

jhasse wrote: post #31
jaysonelliot wrote: post #24

The disappointment, to me, isn't with the iPad alone. It's with the new move in the industry to non-upgradable devices and internet-dependent software. I've enjoyed my iPad 1 since the day I bought it, and I haven't seen any need to replace it with a newer model. Neither the Retina Display nor the camera were particularly important to me, and I didn't have much need for more storage or memory. Would I like to use iOS…

Android? You knew about your iPad being closed, why did you buy it in the first place?

First, Android tablets did not exist back then.

Second, the same problem is true for Android. How many smartphones sold last year will never see jelly bean? If my Atrix wasn't rooted, Id still be on gingerbread. These devices have a one-year, two-max "relevant life expectancy".

That's a shame. Both ecologically and ethically.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by AJ007 »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #24

The disappointment, to me, isn't with the iPad alone. It's with the new move in the industry to non-upgradable devices and internet-dependent software. I've enjoyed my iPad 1 since the day I bought it, and I haven't seen any need to replace it with a newer model. Neither the Retina Display nor the camera were particularly important to me, and I didn't have much need for more storage or memory. Would I like to use iOS…

Talking to casual users, "my iphone/ipad is slow" was a reason they were motivated to purchase the newest model of iphone. When it comes to repeat purchases, I wouldn't find it difficult to imagine that responsible for double digit percentages of new iOS device sales.

Unfortunately for Apple, Steve Jobs is dead and the magic is gone. Now I hear those same users say they are "tired of the iPhone" and want something new. If Apple's competitors can deliver good Android experiences, they are going to get to keep those new users for a while.

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