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Re: Microsoft executive closes replies after Windows 11 "Agentic OS" backlash

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Post by cornonthecobra »

ewuhic wrote: post #28
cornonthecobra wrote: post #25

I currently support an accounting business. We're eternally vendor locked on Windows desktop because Intuit products are it for accounting outside of the ERP space. I'm presently in planning meetings with them to move the desktops from Windows 10 to Linux, and run Intuit over RDP in quarantined Windows 11 VMs. These are people are the most conservative type of user you can imagine. One of the silent cores of staunch…

How about running stuff in wine/proton?

It doesn't. Intuit does kludgy IPC things related to report generation and accessing the internal database server. It's fragile even on Windows.

Fortunately I can easily run a herd of Windows VMs on a single server without much trouble.

Re: Microsoft executive closes replies after Windows 11 "Agentic OS" backlash

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Post by cornonthecobra »

GOD_Over_Djinn wrote: post #27
cornonthecobra wrote: post #25

I currently support an accounting business. We're eternally vendor locked on Windows desktop because Intuit products are it for accounting outside of the ERP space. I'm presently in planning meetings with them to move the desktops from Windows 10 to Linux, and run Intuit over RDP in quarantined Windows 11 VMs. These are people are the most conservative type of user you can imagine. One of the silent cores of staunch…

> They approached me about migrating to Linux on the desktop. What were the reasons they gave? I’m glad to hear this anecdote.

Concerns about financial confidentiality. The new AI features are a form of third-party disclosure that would have to be permanently and irrevocably disabled. I couldn't guarantee those features would never activate (as indicated by Microsoft enabling them with updates even after being disabled), and it rightly spooked the owner.

Re: Microsoft executive closes replies after Windows 11 "Agentic OS" backlash

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Post by ta9000 »

pjmlp wrote: post #22
estimator7292 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without Windows people would make games for Linux. What are you even talking about

No they won't, they already tried before with companies like Loki. Android games done with NDK are made with the same APIs available on GNU/Linux, studios don't make them available on GNU/Linux as it isn't worth the additional development costs in QA and support.

Luckily for us most modern engines allow for devs to support all three platforms. With more Linux users, game devs will have more incentive to put in the extra work.

Re: Microsoft executive closes replies after Windows 11 "Agentic OS" backlash

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Post by quinndexter »

pjmlp wrote: post #22
estimator7292 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without Windows people would make games for Linux. What are you even talking about

No they won't, they already tried before with companies like Loki. Android games done with NDK are made with the same APIs available on GNU/Linux, studios don't make them available on GNU/Linux as it isn't worth the additional development costs in QA and support.

Your second comment describes the market as it currently is. Your original hypothetical posits a vastly different market.

Re: Microsoft executive closes replies after Windows 11 "Agentic OS" backlash

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Post by pjmlp »

ta9000 wrote: post #33
pjmlp wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they won't, they already tried before with companies like Loki. Android games done with NDK are made with the same APIs available on GNU/Linux, studios don't make them available on GNU/Linux as it isn't worth the additional development costs in QA and support.

Luckily for us most modern engines allow for devs to support all three platforms. With more Linux users, game devs will have more incentive to put in the extra work.

They do, studios don't bother because it doesn't bring back the additional costs spent in QA and support.

Re: Microsoft executive closes replies after Windows 11 "Agentic OS" backlash

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Post by pjmlp »

quinndexter wrote: post #34
pjmlp wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they won't, they already tried before with companies like Loki. Android games done with NDK are made with the same APIs available on GNU/Linux, studios don't make them available on GNU/Linux as it isn't worth the additional development costs in QA and support.

Your second comment describes the market as it currently is. Your original hypothetical posits a vastly different market.

It is the same market, selling games at prices that cover development costs for each platform.

Re: Microsoft executive closes replies after Windows 11 "Agentic OS" backlash

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Post by araes »

zinekeller wrote: post #29
araes wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Win7's still pretty heavily used even today. Still has about 2.5% of all desktop searches from Windows hardware worldwide. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/d...

StatCounter's data is known to be contaminated by bots: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desk...

Fair criticism. Better or alternative known sources for Windows version usage without bot contamination?
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