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Firefox expands fingerprint protections

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Re: Firefox expands fingerprint protections

#31
Fingerprinting is nearly impossible to resist these days anyways, no matter which technics Firefox uses to reduce it, and sometimes it actually makes the browser appear more unique.

Last time I tried everything I could to prevent Firefox from calling home, it was still requesting Mozilla servers. Though I haven’t given up, my plan is disabling it at source code level and build my own release.

Re: Firefox expands fingerprint protections

#33

>Having a unique fingerprint means fingerprinters can continuously identify you invisibly This is not right. If you have a unique fingerprint every time someone tries to fingerprint you, then they have to do extra work to try and figure out which are the same. If you make it always be the same you've made the fingerprinter's job much easier.

Agreed. And this technique becomes more effective as the number of people using it increases. It's easy to match up randomized fingerprints if only one person is doing it, but quite hard when thousands or millions are doing it.

Re: Firefox expands fingerprint protections

#34
One thing I found that broke tracking algorithms was the ‘every tab is a new random profile’ extension. I can’t remember the name as I haven’t used it in a while and it broke a lot of logins.

They could not build a profile on you and it would break their system of tracking user login per device.

Re: Firefox expands fingerprint protections

#35

Fingerprinting is nearly impossible to resist these days anyways, no matter which technics Firefox uses to reduce it, and sometimes it actually makes the browser appear more unique. Last time I tried everything I could to prevent Firefox from calling home, it was still requesting Mozilla servers. Though I haven’t given up, my plan is disabling it at source code level and build my own release.

I think this is a nihilistic view. The browser ultimately sends only what the webpage requests. If we gut the ability for websites to request large swathes of information such as every supported TLS Cipher suite and also better protections such as GDPR to make it illegal for browsers to track this information unless a user signs up and also not gating information behind said sign-ups

Re: Firefox expands fingerprint protections

#36

One thing I found that broke tracking algorithms was the ‘every tab is a new random profile’ extension. I can’t remember the name as I haven’t used it in a while and it broke a lot of logins. They could not build a profile on you and it would break their system of tracking user login per device.

You probably mean Temporary Containers…?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

Re: Firefox expands fingerprint protections

#37
I dev my private fork of browser fingerprinting bypass and I can tell, this is like 1% of what commercial tracking companies use for fingerprinting.

Unless they tackle all the hidden things, all artifacts, canvas rendering and many more.

These companies will be actually happy after this change, because even users with ublock and other plugins, will think they're not tracked. Yeah, nope.

And it's not that hard to see how they fingerprint your browser, reverse any JS tracking script yourself and see.

Re: Firefox expands fingerprint protections

#38
post #23

I tested firefox recently. It had some AI summary button or something that was new. I instantly wanted to eliminate this from the UI but I don't know how to do that. I guess it is possible? But it probably requires some time and research; the thing I don't need or want this, it just takes away space. Then I remembered why I no longer use firefox. I believe we, as users, need to take back the open web. The days of som…

I use Firefox because it is better than Chrome, which is the only alternative I see. Do you use something else?

Almost all "alternative" browsers are Chromium based or Gecko/Firefox based. If there are any that are truly scratch-built other than the text-based browsers such as lynx or w3m I'd be interested to hear about them. I'd guess they are extremely limited in features.

Re: Firefox expands fingerprint protections

#39

I tested firefox recently. It had some AI summary button or something that was new. I instantly wanted to eliminate this from the UI but I don't know how to do that. I guess it is possible? But it probably requires some time and research; the thing I don't need or want this, it just takes away space. Then I remembered why I no longer use firefox. I believe we, as users, need to take back the open web. The days of som…

> It had some AI summary button or something that was new. I instantly wanted to eliminate this from the UI but I don't know how to do that. I guess it is possible?

Started a fresh profile, but couldn't find an AI button. The AI stuff in the context menu? You can remove the chat bot functionality right there. As for the buttons, if there is an undesirable button, it should be removable via context menu or toolbar customization.

Re: Firefox expands fingerprint protections

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post #15

I use FF and I paid for NYTimes. I was logged in, yet NYTimes constantly flagged my browser with a persistent captcha I couldn't bypass for months (across 2 different machines). It thought I was a bot because of the privacy features. So I cancelled my subscription using my phone.

Is there a reason to force all these bot checks on logged in accounts that are paying you money other than insanity? Surely you could just have a max monthly bandwidth limit per account and just stop worrying about this?

They probably don’t want you paying once and using that subscription to scrape the website. Which is reasonable.
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