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I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by jillesvangurp »

Razengan wrote: post #23

As an introvert, what are you even supposed to do at "clubs"? Besides having your eardrums damaged

Talking to people is not actually possible at clubs because it's just too loud. So, it's oddly perfect for introverts in that sense. Nobody goes there to talk.

It's why I never liked clubs I prefer small bars where you can talk to people. I've been in Berlin for 16 years now and there are plenty of those bars around. Even now that I no longer drink alcohol, I still enjoy going there.

But I never saw the point of the club scene here. I don't actually mind some of the music and there are some nice Berghain playlists on Spotify that I listen to occasionally. I just never felt any need to actually go there. Just not my thing. My impression of talking to people that do go to these things is that it's a lot about just being seen there or being able to brag about having been there. And then there are of course a lot of people that just go nuts and do that for the whole weekend while taking lots of pills. Also not my thing. But live and let live as far as I'm concerned.

Berghain particularly doesn't just let everybody in. People queue for ages and can then get told off for looking wrong or whatever. Elon Musk famously got an access denied there once. Not cool enough. Which I find hilarious. But the prospect of being vetted like that is a definite turn off for me. I just don't like that kind of snobbishness.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by kenhwang »

kalli wrote: post #27
ssalka wrote: post #22

I'm just gonna say that some aspect of the data collection here seems flawed: among the SF clubs listed are DNA Lounge and Public Works – which are great clubs, don't get me wrong – but they are very much on the smaller side. And, Phonobar? That is a bar/restaurant, not a nightclub at all. Meanwhile, The Warfield and 1015 Folsom are left out – how does that make any sense?

It's based on popularity on Resident Advisor / RA (those are the clubs that had the most "followers" among their userbase)

This is a classic example of data sourcing bias.

RA is primarily used by independent promoters in the States, which tend to be much smaller and have smaller or less frequent events.

Large promoters who regularly throw events or have the budget for larger events would use their own promotion mechanisms and general population ad networks instead of listing on RA.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by namanyayg »

ssalka wrote: post #22

I'm just gonna say that some aspect of the data collection here seems flawed: among the SF clubs listed are DNA Lounge and Public Works – which are great clubs, don't get me wrong – but they are very much on the smaller side. And, Phonobar? That is a bar/restaurant, not a nightclub at all. Meanwhile, The Warfield and 1015 Folsom are left out – how does that make any sense?

Which is the best SF nightclub? I got baited by online reviews to visit DNA and was disappointed.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by el_nahual »

Razengan wrote: post #23

As an introvert, what are you even supposed to do at "clubs"? Besides having your eardrums damaged

When it comes to electronic music, there are basically two types of clubs.

One type is the mega club. These are see-and-be-seen places. Ibiza. Vegas. Miami. The DJs are very famous, but often because they have a few EDM "hits"--not because of their selection or mixing skills. These places have tables, bottle service, and beautiful people. The DJs here often do nothing: they may have a USB drive that they press "play" on and then pretend to mix.

Then there's another class of club: the "indie" electronic music club. These places have djs whose skill is more about selection, mixing, and crowd/vibe management. The djs here often have respected production careers but often not.

What you do at these clubs is simply dance. Usually by yourself, listening to music. The best of these clubs will not blow out your hearing because the sound system is exquisitely tuned.

As an introvert, the second class of club sounds like it would be perfect for you!

As an aside, if you've never experienced a truly world-class DJ (of the second type, not the first), it's an incredible experience. Even if you find electronic music "boring", these people are absolute masters at taking you on an emotional journey.

The best way to experience this is at one of the top festivals. The second best way is at a club. The third best way is at home, with great headphones, and soundcloud/youtube dj sets. NOT spotify.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by radley »

namanyayg wrote: post #33
ssalka wrote: post #22

I'm just gonna say that some aspect of the data collection here seems flawed: among the SF clubs listed are DNA Lounge and Public Works – which are great clubs, don't get me wrong – but they are very much on the smaller side. And, Phonobar? That is a bar/restaurant, not a nightclub at all. Meanwhile, The Warfield and 1015 Folsom are left out – how does that make any sense?

Which is the best SF nightclub? I got baited by online reviews to visit DNA and was disappointed.

It depends on the music and scene that interests you. Most SF nightclubs are event spaces that host independent promoters of recurring events, so the music and attendance can vary. You'll generally get best results if your friends will be there and you want to see the performing artist(s).

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by bckr »

namanyayg wrote: post #33
ssalka wrote: post #22

I'm just gonna say that some aspect of the data collection here seems flawed: among the SF clubs listed are DNA Lounge and Public Works – which are great clubs, don't get me wrong – but they are very much on the smaller side. And, Phonobar? That is a bar/restaurant, not a nightclub at all. Meanwhile, The Warfield and 1015 Folsom are left out – how does that make any sense?

Which is the best SF nightclub? I got baited by online reviews to visit DNA and was disappointed.

My favorites are Public Works, The Midway, and 1015 Folsom

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by radley »

input_sh wrote: post #5

I love the idea behind it and the visualisation indeed looks awesome, but the RA data behind it is messy to say the least. For example, 3/7 "nightclubs" it lists in Croatia are not nightclubs. I would also group Kalypso and Zrće Beach together as Kalypso is one out of 4 nightclubs located on Zrće Beach, but the beach itself is not a venue. Similarly, Barbarella's is kind of an afterparty destination for festivals org…

Sounds like RA could have a lot of DJs promoting their small bar gigs and day parties.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by malfist »

wavefunction wrote: post #8
siva7 wrote: post #7

Don't confuse this list with actually very popular djs. Many clubs in this list host mostly resident and local djs (like Berghain as the club name/culture is the main reason people go there, not the lineup) instead of popular touring djs who have a big fan base of their own (and are more expensive to book).

people go to a club because the music is good, even at the shittiest of popular venues everything follows from there

I've never once when to a club because of the music they play, and I can't remember my friends ever suggesting we go to a different one because the music is better.

It's more about the atmosphere, who's there and the mood you're looking for that night.

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