I realize this is just bad branding by apple but it's still hella confusing.
Open Source Implementation of Apple's Private Compute Cloud
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
the point here wasn't to be a complete clone of Apple's PCC.
Title says otherwise.
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#34@dang can we modify the title to acknowledge that it's specific to chatbots? The title reads like this is about generic compute, and the content is emphatically not about generic compute. I realize this is just bad branding by apple but it's still hella confusing.
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#36Reading the whitepaper, the inference provider still has the ability to access the prompt and response plaintext. This scheme does seem to guarantee that plaintext cannot be read for all other parties (e.g. the API router), and that the client's identity is hidden and cannot be associated with their request. Perhaps the precise privacy guarantees and allowances should be summarized in the readme. With that in mind, d…
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#38Reading the whitepaper, the inference provider still has the ability to access the prompt and response plaintext. This scheme does seem to guarantee that plaintext cannot be read for all other parties (e.g. the API router), and that the client's identity is hidden and cannot be associated with their request. Perhaps the precise privacy guarantees and allowances should be summarized in the readme. With that in mind, d…
We are introducing Verifiably Private AI [1] which actually solves all of the issues you mention. Everything across the entire chain is verifiably private (or in other words, transparent to the user in such a way they can verify what is running across the entire architecture). [1] https://ai.vp.net/
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#39That's nice... in theory. Like it could be cool, and useful... but like what would I actually run on it if I'm not a spammer? Edit : reminds me of federated learning and FlowerLLM (training only AFAIR, not inference), like... yes, nice, I ALWAYS applaud any way to disentangle from proprieaty software and wall gardens... but like what for? What actual usage?
Gimme an actual example instead of downvoting, help me learn. Edit on that too : makes me think of OpenAI Whisper as a service via /e/OS and supposedly anonymous proxying (by mixing), namely running STT remotely. That would be an actual potential usage... but IMHO that's low end enough to be run locally. So I'm still looking for an application here.
Re: Open Source Implementation of Apple's Private Compute Cloud
#40Reading the whitepaper, the inference provider still has the ability to access the prompt and response plaintext. This scheme does seem to guarantee that plaintext cannot be read for all other parties (e.g. the API router), and that the client's identity is hidden and cannot be associated with their request. Perhaps the precise privacy guarantees and allowances should be summarized in the readme. With that in mind, d…
With the caveat that it's not clear what precisely is illegal about these payments and to what level it's illegal. It might be that a business isn't allowed to have any at all, or isn't allowed to use them for business, or can use them for business but can't exchange them for normal currency, or can do all that but has to check their customer's passport and fill out reams of paperwork.
https://bitcoinblog.de/2025/05/05/eu-to-ban-trading-of-priva...