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GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

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Re: GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

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Post by TulliusCicero »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #18
worthless-trash wrote: post #10

GM tech management, If you wanna talk I'm here for you. Who is forcing your hand here.

Wall Street, by all accounts. For an unsexy old-school company like GM, the slightest possibility of achieving a recurring revenue stream and control of customer data flow is worth risking everything. It's all they have to offer their stockholders at this point. At the same time, it's not really a question of "risking everything." After 2008-2009, GM understands that there is no way they will ever be allowed to fail…

Which kinda make sense if it results in more revenue. The right move here for consumers is to punish this behavior by not buying GM cars until they put Android Auto/Apple Carplay back, giving consumers that option.

Re: GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

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Post by lern_too_spel »

mdasen wrote: post #20
nneonneo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am so glad that I insisted on buying a car with CarPlay five years ago. At the time a number of our options did not have CarPlay, but were otherwise quite solid cars. If I'd gone with any of them I'd likely be a lot less happy than I am now: given that I use CarPlay on literally every drive, it's probably the single most important feature to have. I get that GM doesn't want to cede the important center console to t…

I agree with you that it's the wrong choice, but it's not just about ceding control. It's also about ceding the revenue. For example, to connect their system to the internet, that'll be $20/mo. I'd guess GM gets a large portion of that revenue. If you're using CarPlay, there's no reason for you to buy their service. It looks like GM makes around $1,000 in profit per vehicle. If half of their customers give them $20/m…

Those cars connect to WiFi, so you just need to tether them to your phone after the 8 years of free data ends. No $20/month necessary.

Re: GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

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Post by Tempest1981 »

kybernetyk wrote: post #27
Fwirt wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not as “integrated” into the car, but if you just want CarPlay, there are cheap single-purpose “tablets” that mount to your dashboard and either pair to your car’s Bluetooth or plug into the Aux port and just do CarPlay/Android Auto. Amazon is full of them. Ultimately it’s just a video and touch transport protocol, with some additional channels like illumination and I hear speed on some models.

I've got one of those in my 2004 Mazda. It even came with a backup camera. Best 50 Euros ever spent. :)

I got one too... the camera is still up on my bookshelf a year later.

Re: GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

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Post by kens »

The title "GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020" is not the real title, which is "These GM Vehicles Can No Longer Download Apps Through Their Infotainment System"

I'll also point out that "deprecate" is not a fancy synonym for "shutting down"; it means that something is discouraged and might be removed in the future. GM is not deprecating the app store; they are removing access.

Re: GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

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Post by Tempest1981 »

mdasen wrote: post #20
nneonneo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am so glad that I insisted on buying a car with CarPlay five years ago. At the time a number of our options did not have CarPlay, but were otherwise quite solid cars. If I'd gone with any of them I'd likely be a lot less happy than I am now: given that I use CarPlay on literally every drive, it's probably the single most important feature to have. I get that GM doesn't want to cede the important center console to t…

I agree with you that it's the wrong choice, but it's not just about ceding control. It's also about ceding the revenue. For example, to connect their system to the internet, that'll be $20/mo. I'd guess GM gets a large portion of that revenue. If you're using CarPlay, there's no reason for you to buy their service. It looks like GM makes around $1,000 in profit per vehicle. If half of their customers give them $20/m…

If they offered to enable CarPlay/AA for $20/mo... would they sell more cars and increase profits? Or would the result be even more annoyed buyers?

Re: GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

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Post by coin »

kens wrote: post #34

The title "GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020" is not the real title, which is "These GM Vehicles Can No Longer Download Apps Through Their Infotainment System" I'll also point out that "deprecate" is not a fancy synonym for "shutting down"; it means that something is discouraged and might be removed in the future. GM is not deprecating the app store; they are removing access.

Yes this trend is rewriting the title is annoying. I wish there were a way to downvote posts.

Re: GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

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Post by j45 »

conk wrote: post #4

GM is removing CarPlay, and now this story that they are dropping support for in car infotainment apps for cars that are 5-7 years old. Are consumers really going to buy their cars? I won’t consider a new car that doesn’t offer CarPlay/android auto.

After market stereos were always the norm for actual technology. Crutchfield made it super accessible.

Automakers moved into it to try and capture more of that stream.

And generally they can’t keep up.

Cars don’t seem to change much except for the dash tech.

So mane it’s time to own the smarts yourself.

You could get any car and get a big android screen (some have tesla size screens) for your vehicle like those made by phoenix android radio. Only mentioning them as an example not the only choice.

All the built in car screens and graphics continue to work, plus put whatever you like on it.

Re: GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020

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Post by vermilingua »

coin wrote: post #36
kens wrote: post #34

The title "GM Deprecating In-Car App Store for Models as Recent as 2020" is not the real title, which is "These GM Vehicles Can No Longer Download Apps Through Their Infotainment System" I'll also point out that "deprecate" is not a fancy synonym for "shutting down"; it means that something is discouraged and might be removed in the future. GM is not deprecating the app store; they are removing access.

Yes this trend is rewriting the title is annoying. I wish there were a way to downvote posts.

There is, flag is for posts that violate site terms, and editorialising titles violates site terms.
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