Tim Bray on Grokipedia • Hacker News Board

People who say these types of things should link their wikipedia user account so we could see why they were banned and if it really was so unreasonable.

Re: Tim Bray on Grokipedia

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Post by exe34 » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 10:23 PM UTC

mlmonkey wrote: post #22

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Could you share some of the references you tried to use here? It might be interesting to see the quality that they refused to accept towards overturning their narrative.

Re: Tim Bray on Grokipedia

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Post by LastTrain » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 10:23 PM UTC

TheBlight wrote: post #32

tptacek wrote: post #2

Why give it oxygen?

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Proof? More than a couple anecdotes please.

Re: Tim Bray on Grokipedia

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Post by exe34 » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 10:24 PM UTC

tokai wrote: post #8

falleng0d wrote: post #6

We may joke about it, but the fact is that it's releasing dumb ideas like this that you sometimes get masterpieces. Maybe this one is really just one of the bad ones, but eventually Elon will have some good ones just like he already has. And a lot of us would be better off releasing our dumb ideas too. The world has a lot of issues and if all you do is talk down and don't try to fix anything yourself. Maybe it's time…

Not even being snarky, but I can't recall a single good idea he had.

he bought them.

Re: Tim Bray on Grokipedia

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Post by jsheard » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 10:24 PM UTC

TheBlight wrote: post #32

tptacek wrote: post #2

Why give it oxygen?

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Grokipedia only seems to solve astroturfing by ramping gatekeeping up to 11, not allowing anyone outside of xAI to directly influence content or policy, or even observe the decision making processes that go into it. It stands to reason that you can't astroturf a brick wall.

Re: Tim Bray on Grokipedia

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Post by judah » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 10:24 PM UTC

podgietaru wrote: post #16

falleng0d wrote: post #6

We may joke about it, but the fact is that it's releasing dumb ideas like this that you sometimes get masterpieces. Maybe this one is really just one of the bad ones, but eventually Elon will have some good ones just like he already has. And a lot of us would be better off releasing our dumb ideas too. The world has a lot of issues and if all you do is talk down and don't try to fix anything yourself. Maybe it's time…

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The ADL, the left-wing Jewish human rights group not aligned with Musk in the slightest, called out that Musk's gesture was merely an awkward salutation, not a Nazi seig heil[0].

[0]: https://www.jta.org/2025/01/21/politics/how-did-the-adl-conc...

Re: Tim Bray on Grokipedia

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Post by arghandugh » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 10:25 PM UTC

It is a disinformation project aimed at morons and morally bankrupt monsters, powered and funded by one of history’s bloodiest mass murderers. Not sure why this takes four pages to investigate.

Re: Tim Bray on Grokipedia

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 10:25 PM UTC

mlmonkey wrote: post #22

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Wikipedia clearly states that its purpose is to catalog knowledge/information that has been collected and published elsewhere. If you do not provide adequate citations to what are considered reputable sources, Wikipedia will reject your work.

It happened to me a number of times before I came to understand the Wikipedia model. They are not interested in your analysis, they are interested in statements that reference other inspectable "reputable" analyses.