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Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

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Re: Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

#31

Firejail on Linux and Sandboxie on Windows means I can let programs install whenever they want, and I always know it'll be inside some other top-level directory I specify. Probably better to not let programs spray all over your filesystem anyway.

Ah yes, because people should be forced to use some random third-party program because developers went out of their way to write their own installer that lacks a feature every standard installer has had since the 1980s.

Re: Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

#32

Weird windows centric view. There shouldn't even be a question where to put things much less a "wherever you want". Instead you want a sane, sensible standard.

There exists makefiles that don't allow DESTDIR, as in

  mkdir derp
  gmake install DESTDIR=$PWD/derp
Distribution maintainers have to patch this :(

Re: Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

#33
post #4

As long as the uninstaller can find it

Same here. I don't care where the application goes; I care where the data goes. One of my initial annoyances when I started using PlatformIO was that it assumes a default workspace directory and as a new user, it took me forever to figure out where it was putting my files. I have a standard directory structure that I use and this was really messing me up.

Re: Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

#34
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They is the way

I've literally had someone get upset that I used "they", you can't win with some people.

You can probably win with that person though. Just not by using "they".

Re: Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

#35
Always chose custom settings when installing anything. Not only you always get to pick target location but often you can avoid installing some additional garbage. I see no problem here though. Maybe i am too used to these things and some people just never learn and click on every button that is presented to them?

Re: Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

#36

Weird windows centric view. There shouldn't even be a question where to put things much less a "wherever you want". Instead you want a sane, sensible standard.

I would say that "expect the computer to decide for me", rather than having control over where the files are, is the Windows-centric view.

Re: Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

#37
post #4

As long as the uninstaller can find it

Same here. I don't care where the application goes; I care where the data goes. One of my initial annoyances when I started using PlatformIO was that it assumes a default workspace directory and as a new user, it took me forever to figure out where it was putting my files. I have a standard directory structure that I use and this was really messing me up.

>I care where the data goes

I used a Win10 debloater last year about 2 weeks after install. It deleted Minecraft, which is apparently a UWP too, and it deleted my world, because UWPs apparently store userdata in program directory.

Re: Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

#38
post #2

More options, more mess. The user will always do something funky, then don't remember about it and then complain to the software publisher that it's not working correctly

You do realize that most laptops ship with almost zero storage available on the C: drive, right? You have actually looked at the specs of real hardware in use in the real world, right?

Re: Can we talk about the rude installers not asking for installation locations?

#39
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They is the way

I've literally had someone get upset that I used "they", you can't win with some people.

Perhaps because they is plural. Plural is reserved for the royal family in some cultures.
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