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You can't turn off Copilot in the web versions of Word, Excel, or PowerPoint

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Re: You can't turn off Copilot in the web versions of Word, Excel, or PowerPoint

#31

I switched entirely to Libreoffice a few years ago and am still waiting to slam into that "this feature is only found in real MS Office" wall that everybody told me was coming. I don't think I'm going to switch back over OneDrive or Copilot integration.

The only issue I've run into is in Spreadsheet vs Excel:

I would like to multi-color a cell.

I believe Excel does this by dividing the cell diagonally and coloring each triangle differently.

In Spreadsheet, I just use a solid background and then a different color border.

Re: You can't turn off Copilot in the web versions of Word, Excel, or PowerPoint

#33

That's because AIs can't survive by eating their own output. The only solution they know to ward off model collapse is more human input. They need you to use AI to feed the beast. And if it's built into your office apps, they get that data for free. That's part of why every service and system are getting integrations, It's not for us it's for data harvesting. In the end that's what "Windows Recall" will be used for.…

At this moment in time, just sounds like cyber fascism

Re: You can't turn off Copilot in the web versions of Word, Excel, or PowerPoint

#34

We should start calling it “the hallucinator” Can you imagine how this is going to look when the first excel hallucinations start cropping up?

Who cares about excel I'm busy trying to start an AI cult worship and ride off into the sunset on a private jet

Re: You can't turn off Copilot in the web versions of Word, Excel, or PowerPoint

#36

Copilot is the most incompetent AI tool I've ever used, which is bizarre since you'd think with the Microsoft/OpenAI partnership they'd make it so that Copilot uses the ChatGPT model. It's most egregious on Azure, which has a copilot button on every page, and anytime I try to ask it about a precise configuration question for a resource, it NEVER answers correctly. So you have to search on whatever set of microsoft Q&…

Or how about the excel copilot which can't do anything inside a cell???? You can't call it in a formula either.

Or how about outlook copilot, which can't do the unbelievably simple task of figuring out when someone asks for a meeting at 1pm tomorrow and you press make invite to actually pre-fill 1pm tomorrow as the meeting time????? ARGH!

And we are worried about fast takeoff and the singularity? Give me a break.

Re: You can't turn off Copilot in the web versions of Word, Excel, or PowerPoint

#37

I switched entirely to Libreoffice a few years ago and am still waiting to slam into that "this feature is only found in real MS Office" wall that everybody told me was coming. I don't think I'm going to switch back over OneDrive or Copilot integration.

Libreoffice has been fine for most use cases for over a decade. It's honestly just the UX that needs work

Re: You can't turn off Copilot in the web versions of Word, Excel, or PowerPoint

#38

That's because AIs can't survive by eating their own output. The only solution they know to ward off model collapse is more human input. They need you to use AI to feed the beast. And if it's built into your office apps, they get that data for free. That's part of why every service and system are getting integrations, It's not for us it's for data harvesting. In the end that's what "Windows Recall" will be used for.…

I work in MSFT although not in office org. Based on my experience, the reason is far more trivial. Someone has a half year goal (KR) that says I/my team will increase engagement by N% from X to Y. Some people, whom I don't respect, when presented with a goal like that immediately start doing this (tfa) kind of stuff. Many people, when towards the end of the period some of their genuine (i.e. delivering good stuff) bets don't pan out and the numbers don't number, start doing things like this or generally throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.

I bet there was a meeting where someone axed the off button because numbers.

Re: You can't turn off Copilot in the web versions of Word, Excel, or PowerPoint

#39

I switched entirely to Libreoffice a few years ago and am still waiting to slam into that "this feature is only found in real MS Office" wall that everybody told me was coming. I don't think I'm going to switch back over OneDrive or Copilot integration.

The only feature I miss from Word is their auto-format, which can take an unformatted or badly formatted peice of text and generally clean it up nicely.

Re: You can't turn off Copilot in the web versions of Word, Excel, or PowerPoint

#40

Try going to OneDrive to see your stuff if you want to be really annoyed.

I dread every time I have to open OneDrive or SharePoint to find a file. How can they manage to make a file browsing app SO bad?! Same with teams.
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