Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

404media.co

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–40 of 380 posts

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#31

Post by crooked-v »

elicash wrote: post #22
throwaway48476 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

All of the replies to my comment are focusing on the definition of irony. It's like I'm 12 years old again hearing all my classmates talk about why having spoons when you need a knife isn't "actually" irony.

I think the nitpicking is because the phrasing implies that it's not an intentional choice on the part of the government.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#33

Post by Cornbilly »

varispeed wrote: post #26
dgllghr wrote: post #17

[flagged]

I wonder why people downvote. Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. State responsibilities are being offloaded to multinational corporations, de facto private policing is around the corner, surveillance (digital ID tracking your movements and what you talk about, chat controls and whatnot). It's creeping in and people pretend it's not happening.

People downvote because an oligarchy controlled by big tech is their idea of a wet dream.

Half of the user base of HN is “founders” excited at the idea that morals, values, and laws will no longer matter.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#34

Post by dgllghr »

varispeed wrote: post #26
dgllghr wrote: post #17

[flagged]

I wonder why people downvote. Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. State responsibilities are being offloaded to multinational corporations, de facto private policing is around the corner, surveillance (digital ID tracking your movements and what you talk about, chat controls and whatnot). It's creeping in and people pretend it's not happening.

I’ve gone from thinking people are oblivious to thinking that people are willing to sacrifice a lot (democracy, individual liberties, food safety, etc.) out of fear, selfishness, and greed. It is surprising with the HN crowd though given how much less innovation and entrepreneurship there is under fascism.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#35

Post by softwaredoug »

dmitrygr wrote: post #30

'Katz v. United States' was quite clear - you have no expectation of privacy in public. Anyone may photograph you and use said photos. Do I like it? No. But that is the current caselaw in USA. "What a person knowingly exposes to the public [...] is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection." - Justice Potter in 'Katz v. United States'

If they ignore all other forms of evidence that you're a citizen, that goes beyond privacy in a public space

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#36

Post by giraffe_lady »

varispeed wrote: post #26
dgllghr wrote: post #17

[flagged]

I wonder why people downvote. Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. State responsibilities are being offloaded to multinational corporations, de facto private policing is around the corner, surveillance (digital ID tracking your movements and what you talk about, chat controls and whatnot). It's creeping in and people pretend it's not happening.

I mean they are flashbanging houses, teargassing residential neighborhoods, dragging parents away from their screaming children outside of elementary schools, shooting people, all in chicago right now. The things you mention were serious problems we needed to address 5, 10, 20 years ago. We did not and now we have a very different problem to solve. We will still have to address those things but we have to deal with this first.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#38

Post by snozolli »

varispeed wrote: post #26
dgllghr wrote: post #17

[flagged]

I wonder why people downvote. Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. State responsibilities are being offloaded to multinational corporations, de facto private policing is around the corner, surveillance (digital ID tracking your movements and what you talk about, chat controls and whatnot). It's creeping in and people pretend it's not happening.

Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist.

Which ones? This isn't an "I'm just asking" attack, I genuinely want to know which ones you think are obviously fascist.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

#39

Post by mrbombastic »

If you haven’t seen it this video is a dystopian display of this tech in action: https://www.reddit.com/r/EyesOnIce/comments/1ogm1qk/ice_agen...

I am struggling a bit personally with how to grapple with the fact that the career I have chosen has ended up bolstering all the horrible inclinations of those in power. I think we need some kind of tech workers collective and some version of the hippocratic oath to start pushing back against this bullshit.

Post reply on HN