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Re: Floss Before Brushing

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post #19

I mean, it's advice from someone on the internet, are there any studies to back it up? Edit: I missed the study linked at the bottom. I floss after brushing, just because brushing removes a lot of particles. If I floss before, there is just so much more flossing I need to do to get everything out. I learned another thing recently, to use a proper brushing technique, I think it's the modified Bass technique. I also ma…

Well, TFA linked to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29741239/

Re: Floss Before Brushing

#32
Might sound like an ad but I don’t care:

I cannot recommend enough Jordan Expand floss. There are probably other brands that have these but that’s just the one I know.

The amount of shit this floss scrapes out is like an order of magnitude more than regular floss. Going back to plain floss feels like you’re not even flossing, it just glides over without really doing anything.

Re: Floss Before Brushing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't you have the opportunity? Flossing removes the stuff.

Not completely. It might end up on the floss but it might also end up on your teeth or gums.

How does brushing remove it then? I'm guessing it's still in between your teeth.

Re: Floss Before Brushing

#34
While we're on the subject, if you brush after meals, you're doing it wrong.

Brush first thing in the morning (before your first meal/drink, other than water), and last thing at night (well after your last meal).

Plaque acid is at its lowest, so this approach results in the least damage to enamel from brushing. (Amongst other reasons.)

For a similar reason, only have a thorough brush in the morning, and a mild brush in the evening.

Re: Floss Before Brushing

#35
post #22
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I thought the ideal order was brush, floss, mouthwash.

Using mouthwash every time is not ideal because most mouthwashes disrupt your oral microbiome which will result in undesired side-effects like teeth staining etc.

I've heard this before, yet my mouth remains... unaffected.

What does an "oral microbiome" even mean? I understand what it means in the literal sense, but would a person's mouth be dysfunctional if it were hypothetically devoid of microbes? Is there an accepted healthy oral microbiome composition?

Re: Floss Before Brushing

#36
post #15
post #10

Did they teach it the other way around somewhere? Here (Germany) I've been told floss before brush for as long as I can remember...

When I get my teeth cleaned at the dentist, flossing is the last thing done. So I assume people internalize that

So a stupid question, but does teeth cleaning do something more than removing the stone (calculus)? My dentist removes that with a spike during a checkup and isn't doing any upsells so I've never in my life had a separate cleaning appointment.

Re: Floss Before Brushing

#37

Is there empirical evidence that this order is more effective?

The essay links to this study, so yes:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29741239/

I was a bit confused about why it would matter, but then realized I brush, then floss, then use a fluoride rinse, which isn't really addressed by the study. If you didn't use a rinse or a fluoride floss, presumably the toothpaste from brushing would be more likely to get into the areas between your teeth after flossing.

If you use a fluoride rinse or fluoride floss I'm not sure it would matter much, or brushing first might even be better, because it would remove material to make flossing more effective. Maybe?

Re: Floss Before Brushing

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post #25
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This is how I've always done it and I was blown away when I found out people do it backwards. It makes no logical sense.

Why not? Brushing and swishing removes most of the particles, and then you floss to reach the tight spaces.

Because when you floss you create more particles

Re: Floss Before Brushing

#39
It so happens that this is what I was doing, which is good. However, for years I was brushing after eating my breakfast because I assumed it was the better way as then you aren't going about your day with your breakfast on your teeth. But when I looked into it I found that for a variety of reasons it is apparently better to brush before breakfast. So it was an important lesson in not assuming the "obvious" (to you) way is the best.

Re: Floss Before Brushing

#40

I'm surprised that this isn't self-evident. Flossing dislodges stuff from between your teeth. Brushing beforehand means you don't have an opportunity to remove that stuff.

I have talked about this flossing topic surprisingly often and it's one of the reasons I believe the majority of people are idiots with zero critical thinking. Especially in regards to health. No one seems to read inlets or understand them. It's awful.
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