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Britain's most tattooed man says UK's age check told him to "remove his face"

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Re: Britain's most tattooed man says UK's age check told him to "remove his face"

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While I can imagine this is very frustrating, I think we can definitely see "facial accessories" becoming more mainstream as ways to evade "unsolicited surveillance". Like... imagine someone invents glasses with an outward looking camera that can stream all their surroundings without proper opt-in consent (where this is required).

I can't tell if it's a sarcastic joke, but just in case it isn't and you want a bit of free anxiety with your coffee: the future is now, old man!

Re: Britain's most tattooed man says UK's age check told him to "remove his face"

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The chap basically has a permanent version of those clothing items that confuse security cameras. Perhaps we'll see more people sporting this look in the future.

A few years ago, i think 2018, i was in munich and as usual i went to see the mueum of technology. They had this exibition about the future of surveillance as seen by cyberpunk artists and there was this part about hair style and makeup that would confuse face detection algorythms. It was brillant, but i never managed to find it again. I hope the hivemind here remembers or can point me in the right direction

I think the keywords you want are "cv dazzle". The ones I've seen are inspired by dazzle camouflage, but if you wear them out in public I think that people will be more likely to pay attention to you, even if ai camera systems are less likely to

Re: Britain's most tattooed man says UK's age check told him to "remove his face"

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Gary's Mod (a videogame that uses the Half Life 2 engine) is being used to bypass these live face checkers [0]. It's primitive, but I can see in the future full-on AI driven face generation doing this job. It'll basically become a arms race between the checking technology and the fake face generation.

[0] https://www.flexposer.com/

Re: Britain's most tattooed man says UK's age check told him to "remove his face"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few years ago, i think 2018, i was in munich and as usual i went to see the mueum of technology. They had this exibition about the future of surveillance as seen by cyberpunk artists and there was this part about hair style and makeup that would confuse face detection algorythms. It was brillant, but i never managed to find it again. I hope the hivemind here remembers or can point me in the right direction

I think the keywords you want are "cv dazzle". The ones I've seen are inspired by dazzle camouflage, but if you wear them out in public I think that people will be more likely to pay attention to you, even if ai camera systems are less likely to

The point of the exibition was also to raise awareness, and speculated that in the future it would not be that unusual to see people wear camouflage

And this was before the cursed AI timeline we're living in right now

Re: Britain's most tattooed man says UK's age check told him to "remove his face"

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This was never necessary - Yoti (which I think is being used in this case) has a tool that allows you to validate your identity to them, and then use that to validate only that you're over 18 to third parties. Yivi (a Dutch non-profit) even has an open source version, and it works really well.

I have no clue why these "facial age estimation" technologies are being pushed in place of that. They're much worse in terms of privacy and accuracy, and they're easier to trick if you want to bypass them.

Re: Britain's most tattooed man says UK's age check told him to "remove his face"

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Gary's Mod (a videogame that uses the Half Life 2 engine) is being used to bypass these live face checkers [0]. It's primitive, but I can see in the future full-on AI driven face generation doing this job. It'll basically become a arms race between the checking technology and the fake face generation. [0] https://www.flexposer.com/

It's truly saddening that we have to solve this problem technically, whereas it should have been solved politically (or better, this absurd thing should never have been considered). The fact that it can be slightly contained by more technically capable people is worse, because instead of shocking everyone all at once it allows you to boil the frog as a politician.
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