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Look, Another AI Browser

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Re: Look, Another AI Browser

#31

Why would they build their own browser from scratch? That would be dumb without a significantly compelling reason. The author of this post reminds me of one of those guys who writes an entirely new game engine instead of using an off the shelf product and ends up never completing the game..

I'm curious why these things are not distributed as extensions rather than full browsers.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

#32
post #5

To be sure, a browser that retains a representation of every word you read on it, constantly synthesizing a profile on your preferences, using that profile to filter everything you see through a lens that consistently enforces and limits the worldview of a snapshot-of-you - all with a level of data retention that would be controversial for Google but that OpenAI's users will happily opt into, that Palantir and its go…

Another possible aspect of it is that probably more and more sites are blocking AI crawlers through e.g. Cloudflare's support for blocking AI crawler and AI agents. This will give them a backdoor to that content through a user's connection.

I am not sure if this is happening, but as blocking becomes more prevalent, having a widely-used browser will help.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

#34
post #6

Most of what most people do, who sit 8h a day in front of a computer, is in the browser. So I see where this product idea is coming from...

It seems like for better or worse if you want to be a web company, there's a lot of incentive to try and become a platform. A limitation for the likes of Zoom, Dropbox, Proton, and seemingly OpenAI is they have to struggle to integrate with calendars, office suites, and even the browser itself. And it may be turning out to be true that it's more feasible to simply invent your own parallel ecosystem of benefits and office suites and online storage drives than to attempt to negotiate with the gatekeepers of existing ones.

I would like to think that the "real" solution is strong web protocols and interoperability, And perhaps even something like an explicit anti-platform ethos. As it stands it seems like the strategy of being a platform is to outrace protocols in terms of offering new capabilities. But it would at least be nice if protocols are close enough behind that they're effectively a "safety net", or the equivalent of generic drugs, that everyone can fall back to.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

#35

Why would they build their own browser from scratch? That would be dumb without a significantly compelling reason. The author of this post reminds me of one of those guys who writes an entirely new game engine instead of using an off the shelf product and ends up never completing the game..

They could simply vibe-code a new browser engine from scratch using gpt - I believe that's the whole purpose of the AI stories?

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

#36
post #6

Most of what most people do, who sit 8h a day in front of a computer, is in the browser. So I see where this product idea is coming from...

Is this true? Most of mine is in a text editor. In a previous role, it was in Excel. My partner spends her day in Power BI, etc etc. Are we outliers? What jobs are mostly in browsers instead of task-oriented specific other software tools?

Sales (CRMs are all in browser now), Marketing (entire stack, include some creative (Canva) is in browser now), Strategy is half in powerpoint/xls (creating content) and half in browser (researching info), HR (Workday, LinkedIn, etc.), product (Figma, Miro, Aha!, Linear), support (Asana/Jira) probably spend at least 50% of their working time in browser. Also the time people are at their desk but not working, is usually in browser (check news, stocks, blogs, personal email, etc.)

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

#37
>To the surprise of literally nobody, it’s Chromium with AI slapped on top

We should start calling browsers "Chromiums."

My favorite Chromium is Vivaldi, by the way. It doesn't have AI slapped on it, but it has native a RSS client, e-mail client, vertical tabs, notes, a way to separate tabs into "workspaces" and a way to save tabs into "sessions" that you can reopen later, and it native profiles like Chrome. There are also countless settings you can customize (and lots of terrible defaults that you will want to customize, like rocker gestures). It's pretty much Opera 2.0 without the crypto. These features feel to me far more useful than AI.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

#38
post #27

Why the negativity? A browser is the gateway between end user and technology/information/AI themselves. Of course everyone with money is racing trying to control it. It makes sense.

> Why the negativity?

Because:

> A browser is the gateway between end user and technology/information/AI themselves. Of course everyone with money is racing trying to control it.

?

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

#39
Agree with the other comments that it's not fundamentally innovative and no one with a sense of privacy wants to ship all browsing data to one of the mega-AIs.

BUT -- that's missing the strategic point here:

- Everyone realizes that being the gatekeeper for user interaction is key: that's where all the context is and utility will come from

- AI is providing a unique opportunity to overturn a long-held monopoly (Chrome's dominance) by providing

Put another way, ChatGPT + Chromium = OpenAI's Trojan horse.

It would be foolish for them to waste resources innovating on the browser engine (which isn't their core competency) when they can use their actual competency (AI) to take their bet at capturing the market

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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post #27

Why the negativity? A browser is the gateway between end user and technology/information/AI themselves. Of course everyone with money is racing trying to control it. It makes sense.

Because people are tired of seeing LLMs, which aren't even good at the things they are claimed to be good at, shoehorned into everything whether or not it provides a shred of value to the user.
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