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MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#31
post #5

Is there a fork already?

What for? The code hasn't changed, it's AGPL-3.0. They just don't release their own binaries or docker images anymore.

There is perhaps a need for a fork because of their recent removal of features (unrelated to today's post): https://github.com/minio/minio/issues/21584

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#33

Not a full replacement but there is Garage, which was quite well received in other HN threads. https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage

Afaik Ceph has its own object-storage functionality as well, which seems to be S3-compatible: https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/radosgw/#object-gateway

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#34
Shame. Textbook OSS rug pull. These people love to rely on OSS, and claim how committed they are to contribute to the ecosystem and to their community, but as soon as people are drawn to the project, start relying on it and using it in the same spirit of OSS that they enjoy themselves (which their chosen license allows, mind you), then it becomes a financial burden, priorities shift to their commercial offering, there's no "bandwidth" to maintain and support the "community" edition, and so on.

STOP ABUSING OSS AS A MARKETING GIMMICK.

Or perhaps an advice to people who might actually listen: stop being attracted to open source projects because of the word "open", and because you can use it gratis. There are plenty of good proprietary and commercial software whose authors treat their users with more respect than these leeches of good will and abusers of trust.

I'm not against OSS being commercialized. In fact, I think that it's crucial for maintaining a healthy project in the long-term[1][2]. But this lingers on the developer having respect and equal regard for all their users, regardless of how much they're paying them. Yes, nobody working on software should be expected to work for free. But there is a philosophy behind this movement that goes beyond a financial transaction. It only works if everyone in the ecosystem is honest, and first and foremost has the intention of making the world a better place for everyone, by not only depending on others who have this mindset, but by adopting it themselves. Claiming to be part of the OSS community, but being hostile to your OSS users is dishonest at best, and worthy of all criticism.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45540307

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45537750

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#35
post #12

It's an Open Source project - I don't understand what people are complaining about. Noone is entitled to receive free Docker images. I'm sure if there is enough demand, someone else who is trustworthy will step up and automate building them. What I'd like to complain about instead is the pricing page on the Min.io webpage - it doesn't list any pricing. Looking at https://cloudian.com/blog/minios-ui-removal-leaves-org…

When you always published and built Docker images for the public you are creating an expectation, people will rely on that and will chose your software based on that expectation.

You suddenly deciding that you won't be offering updated Docker images especially after a CVE and with no prior notice (except a hidden commit 4 days ago that updated the README) is approaching malicious-level actions.

If they truly cared about their community and still wanted to go through the decision of not offering public docker builds the responsible thing to do is offer a warning period, start adding notices in the repo (gh and docker) and create an easy migration path, even endorse or help some community members who would be fine with taking care of the public builds of the image.

But no, they introduced the change, made no public statement about it, waited for someone to notice this, offered no explanation and went silent. After a huge CVE. Irresponsible.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#37

I wonder how many people only use Minio as a localdev S3 alternative. At least that's all we use it for really

Every time I used it for more than that I ran into performance and other concerns (like durability and consistency) pretty quickly. I cannot imagine how this is used seriously when there is something like Ceph available.

Turns out most file systems are horrible key-value stores.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#39

I wonder how many people only use Minio as a localdev S3 alternative. At least that's all we use it for really

I have a 160TB minio cluster running for 4+ years who had dealt beautifully with node outages, one drive failure and the occassional hiccups on the datacenter.

I was okay with not having support because I am not part of their customer base. I was okay with not having the webUI, though I wish they made an option where the webUI would be available for some basic-tier paid customers. But I can not be okay with this move. They are just giving the finger to all the community. They never tried to work out a solution that could let smaller users to contribute or support.

I will seriously have to consider moving to Hetzner object storage.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#40
We're working on a binary build process now. We hope to have something up at https://github.com/golithus soon.

We use MinIO (community edition) a fair amount. And while we like it, it is also becoming increasingly clear that our days of deploying are numbered.

We want to start experimenting with Garage for smaller deployments, and would be interesting to hear of any production experiences there. (Anyone done multi-PiB deployments?)

Other than that we're going to start looking at Ceph/Rook for larger deployments.

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